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Old 01-17-2012, 10:13 PM   #41
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I am sorry but I have little faith in someone that is mentioning that you could get a contract signed and then just casually mention they need to sign rrp paperwork before demo starts. You may be willing to stoop to that level but I am not. Yes I am getting the picture on how you are getting 100% rrp work when so many others cant get one rrp job.
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If you can't fight or understand the science, I see you head into personal criticism.

A lot of RRP jobs I do will only have around a 3% additional cost for compliance. With just a 3% additional cost, I just add it into the estimate and don't mention RRP. If we get the job, I get the Renovate Right signed before demo. Nothing wrong with that IMO
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The key wording there is airborne have decreased 89 percent--what happened to lead particles after they werent airborne?? Does lead one of the heaviest elements just float away in your world??
Airborne becomes important when you are in a traffic jam breathing in the leaded fumes day after day from all the cars ahead of you.
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from the EPA ... Airborne lead concentrations throughout the country have decreased 89 percent since 1984, directly due to the phaseout of leaded gasoline, as well as to the majority of cars equipped with pollution control devices that require using unleaded fuel.


Maybe you are right and I just dont understand. There is way too many non logical , misleading statements made for me. Like the above statement-- of course airborne lead concentrations are going to decrease after they quit using lead in gasoline--I mean after all lead is one of, if not the heaviest of elements---I wonder how many millions of taxpayer dollars and how many EPA people it took to figure that out? They could have went even further with thier conclusions and said "we have also seen a steep decline of lead concentrations in the air since the civil war ended." There are way too many ways for a child to get ebll's than just remodeling. In just the last year I read in newspaper or magazine articles about lead being found in those tote bags people are using now--lipstick--of course imported toys, many articles about lead in the water supplies ,but the most shocking was the amount of child car safety seats that had lead in them. Of all things child safety seats that parents are required by law to have thier child strapped into.
There is too many ways a child can get eblls other than remodeling and they can very easily be exposed to one of those sources when a contractor is working at the home. The EPA by having such focus on the remodeling industry, while all the other sources of lead go by with less regulatory oversight, if a contractor is working on a home with children and one tests with ebll's it sure gives the appearance that the contractor (even when he followed the rules) is guilty until he can prove his innocence. Until I see proof (not opinions or study results) 1. Of specifically how many kids with ebbl's were remodeling related. 2. Of those that were suspected of being remodeling related--that the EPA or whatever agency responsible--went back 30 days (after child was diagnosed with ebll) and tested everything that child ate touched or drank (I want whatever source of lead expsoure positively identified) and these results to have a five year track record.

That would go a long way toward giving me the ability to understand science.
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Just to make this more interesting - what about the mercury and chromium in some oil-based paints? Those are not exactly health food ingredients.

The lead from leaded-gasoline is a significant issue during highway projects. Letting Ethyl Corp. get their way was a tremendous mistake, and yet another example of the government playing a major part in creating pollution.

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