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Old 06-03-2015, 06:00 AM   #61
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At 20 years old I decided my current line of work is too hard, quit my job, moved in with the parents and went back to school. By 21 I was back on the job and by 23 I was my own boss in the line of work I hated doing a few years earlier.

Who knows, one day he just might kick it into gear.
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Old 06-03-2015, 07:00 AM   #62
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For everyone saying I should've gave him a time frame, lead by example, etc, believe me I tried.

First thing I tried was to show him what it looks like to do it right. He said he couldn't go that fast. I said I wanted the pile gone in an hour. He came no where close.

I even went over and asked him if he wanted to quit. He begged me to let him keep working. I told him I needed him to work faster. He kept saying "I'm sorry." and "I'm really going as fast as I can."

In truth, I don't think he was lying. Like I said, he's a good person. I genuinely believe he thinks that's as fast as he can work because he doesn't have the mental strength to push himself any harder.

I do believe that social trends and technology have enabled many of my peers to grow up living a life where they never once had to push themselves. This separates my generation from previous ones. For these reasons, I stand by my original conclusions.
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I used to think like you.
Amazing how time & experience changes our perspective. Looking back at myself at 18-19, I wouldn't have hired me. I was worthless with a piss poor attitude. By 21 I was starting to put my life together & have only been unemployed twice since then.
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Amazing how time & experience changes our perspective. Looking back at myself at 18-19, I wouldn't have hired me. I was worthless with a piss poor attitude. By 21 I was starting to put my life together & have only been unemployed twice since then.
Same here. Before 21ish, I was like the person everyone here complains about.
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Stay in motion and keep something work related in your hands at all times besides lunch and break.

That's about as simple as it gets - if that is too complicated then go waste someone else's time and money...
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Amazing how time & experience changes our perspective. Looking back at myself at 18-19, I wouldn't have hired me. I was worthless with a piss poor attitude. By 21 I was starting to put my life together & have only been unemployed twice since then.


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Same here. Before 21ish, I was like the person everyone here complains about.

I have always been a dream child... :
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Old 06-03-2015, 10:07 PM   #67
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We all grow up, hopefully . its wild guys...all of us out here running our own jobs learn to hustle , learn to kill it , and know thats where the money often is. I feel your pain brothers....I really do. Its hard to find guys that can hang with you when you know exactly what you are doing .
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Most things at work we do unconsciously after a few years of repetition. I remember being 17 and not knowing the little tricks or having the coordination and technique. I first got into the construction environment doing demolition and asbestos removal. At the time I thought I was over my head. I could wipe the floor with myself from back then now though.

Pushing through fatigue or giving an extra 10% when you've already given 100 is definitely mental. It's hard to describe, I guess you either get it or you don't.
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At 20 years old I decided my current line of work is too hard, quit my job, moved in with the parents and went back to school. By 21 I was back on the job and by 23 I was my own boss in the line of work I hated doing a few years earlier.

Who knows, one day he just might kick it into gear.
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that is so true.

talking with my youngest son a few days ago--- complimenting him on some beautiful work he is doing on our current project. ( he is mid 20's now....)

I said---"remember that summer you worked with me right after high school ?---- you couldn't have done this THEN! "

he smiled--- but was a little bit embarrassed and said " I was just mad then that no one would pay me to sleep until noon and then play guitar and smoke weed all day. I would have hated ANY job then"

but from that point he went (unwillingly) to college that fall---and then in the spring started working for a landscaper.--within a year he was the forman of one of the crews there---and worked that job for 5-6 years---- 60-70 hours a week most of the year and out plowing snow all night in the winter. 2 years ago he came back to work with me----and he is quite a different young man. the difference between 18 and 24 or so is astounding.
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Wake up with a higher level of aches and pains than anything that the day can throw at you. What account is a sore muscle here, a little boo-boo there? That's the older man's secret to outworking and out-enduring a younger man.
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Where I used to work, I eventually became the guy that does the hiring. My first hire was sight unseen, and behaved exactly like your guy. His first task was to move 300 studs from the lumber pile to the inside of the house. He had the gall to ask me, "Why don't we all carry these, and it will go much faster?. The only thing that went faster was his termination that same day.
I remember the first time I had to move 2x10, I was moving 10 footers we were using to build exterior walls on an 18' tall great room addition, two at a time. My boss at the time, who is still the largest and most intimidating human I've ever met, came over and said "I carry eight, if you can't move at least 4 at a time you're fire." I carried at least 5 at a time for the remainder of my employment. I couldn't move two sheets of sheathing at once right now if I wanted to, but back then I could move two bundles, two sheets at a time, and have energy left over to work the rest of the day. Depends on who motivates you and how good they are at motivation I guess.

Also feel like every time I have a dry spell, or a hard winter, I get back into it twice as organized, half as scatter brained and with a fire I didn't know I had in me. Give him some time, he may change.

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I'm about to take a risk on a 20 year old. Kid I've been riding with at the skate park. Energetic, cocky, obviously works hard at riding. We'll see how he is at work tomorrow
If he's at the skatepark instead of digging trails he's probably soft.

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