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Old 10-22-2018, 10:54 PM   #21
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Iím a little nervous, Iíve got two more to build this year, then weíll be finishing the insides and siding throughout the winter.

Who knows with the weather though, last year we were in winter at this time, but two years ago it didnít set in til after thanksgiving. Right now weíre in the 60s, it snowed a week or so back but itís melted quick.


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Old 10-22-2018, 11:05 PM   #22
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we worked all year long when i wast tahoe.

heavy snow, cold & wind if you were on the water....

there were times when it seemed very advantageous to be cooking burgers at a fast food joint....

unlike how some commercial work can be scheduled, you just never knew when a residential project came up....

there were some mornings when we never made it out of the shop, or the truck when we got on site, or after coffee break & sometimes lunch ended the day.....

go with the flow & the cold....
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It takes some work (and a booming city), but I've gotten to where people wait a year+ for me. I schedule interiors for the winter. I also schedule multiple projects in the same neighborhood to minimize driving time.

The question is not when I'm available. It's when I'm available for that type of project in that neighborhood.
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It takes some work (and a booming city), but I've gotten to where people wait a year+ for me. I schedule interiors for the winter. I also schedule multiple projects in the same neighborhood to minimize driving time.



The question is not when I'm available. It's when I'm available for that type of project in that neighborhood.


Thatís awesome!

Thatís what Iím working towards, every year I get to be a little more picky on what jobs and when. This year itís picked up a ton, thereís so much going on, I canít wrap my head around how all the new houses, apartments, commercial spaces, etc are getting filled.


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When there isn't much snow on the roofs I usually make enough to pay bills. Really bad winters I watch my reserves dwindle and complain.


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It takes some work (and a booming city), but I've gotten to where people wait a year+ for me. I schedule interiors for the winter. I also schedule multiple projects in the same neighborhood to minimize driving time.

The question is not when I'm available. It's when I'm available for that type of project in that neighborhood.
It's nice, ain't it?

I remember when I was worried people wouldn't wait 3 weeks for a repair.

One of the houses I'm building they waited just shy of 11 months after design.
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As long as the suns out itís not bad, the big problem is guns and hoses freezing.


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Thatís one reason I was so excited to get a cordless nailer; my hoses would always freeze and my elbows would hurt like hell after a couple days of swinging a hammer. A couple days of production basically pays for a cordless.


Years ago I had a gasser but Iíd get maybe 500 nails and after it got dirty it would misfire 3 or 4 times for every nail which would give me about 200 nails per cylinder. After a cleaning youíd get a few hundred nails at most with no misfires.
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Lots of ways to "dry" your cold weather air.... some cheaper then others, they are all cheaper then not working, or hand nailing a house together.

Adding a "cooling" tank would work for most small to medium crews, over sized feeder hoses, run uphill, that allow the water to run back to a drop tee with a drain valve.

Definitely need a 24/7 heated dog house for the air compressor and accessories.

Anyone use N2 or Co2 tanks filled at a dive shop/welding shop? more for finish nailers?

In the Midwest, the Dew Point is much lower then PNW usually.
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Lots of ways to "dry" your cold weather air.... some cheaper then others, they are all cheaper then not working, or hand nailing a house together.

Adding a "cooling" tank would work for most small to medium crews, over sized feeder hoses, run uphill, that allow the water to run back to a drop tee with a drain valve.

Definitely need a 24/7 heated dog house for the air compressor and accessories.

Anyone use N2 or Co2 tanks filled at a dive shop/welding shop? more for finish nailers?

In the Midwest, the Dew Point is much lower then PNW usually.
Or just buy a battery framer.
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One DeWalt, battery framer 400.00$, two larger batteries, 300.00$+...

That could pay for a lot of water drying equipment that lowers maintenance costs year around.

A few years ago, A U- Tuber guy had developed a battery "bandoleer" vest that held as many D cell rechargeable batteries as you wanted, with a high low voltage switch, that you used a dead battery top to plug into your brand of tools, the down side is it kind looks like a boom-boom Islamic Paradise ticket...
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Lots of ways to "dry" your cold weather air.... some cheaper then others, they are all cheaper then not working, or hand nailing a house together.

Adding a "cooling" tank would work for most small to medium crews, over sized feeder hoses, run uphill, that allow the water to run back to a drop tee with a drain valve.

Definitely need a 24/7 heated dog house for the air compressor and accessories.

Anyone use N2 or Co2 tanks filled at a dive shop/welding shop? more for finish nailers?

In the Midwest, the Dew Point is much lower then PNW usually.

We work outside all winter and itís cold here. Having a compressor in a heated area only adds more moisture when the warm air cools outside. Just drain the compressor and each day and add some airline antifreeze a couple times a day.


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Ya Iíve got an air water separator right after the compressor in the trailer, roll hoses daily and keep em in the heat overnight, Iíll try the antifreeze trick this year.


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That's the absolute worst place for the water separator. But seeing as it's the worst place because it's the hottest air, and you're dealing with winter problems the separator might work although it won't work at it's best. The best place is 50' down line after the air has cooled down. But in your case that's getting the water into the line and it's freezing out and causing issues.

So, never mind....
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Iíve noticed that the nail guns work differently, the framers arenít terrible but the strap shot seems like it freezes up right away, 7/16 stapler wants to freeze up too.


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You want an extra tank plumbed in trailer/shack, use a 3/4" big boy hoses, with a water drop at every splice,(hoses run uphill to user from drops) a portable tank (3-10 gallon) near the work area hose(s).

Keeping the air compressor noise at least 100 feet from the work area, make the job much more pleasant/safer, especially for "Lifers" and the cut man/gang. They can't work as directed, if they can't hear You speak....

The idea is the water runs back to a Teed in drop with the oversized hoses, if they don't form traps with the hose.

Regulator on the tank and final nurse tank.

The end of main line tank levels out nailer energy levels with multiple guns in operation: Fewer air nails to hand hammer, less overdriving to prevent proud nails.
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Generally, you can still work effectively about 80% of the time here in the Winter. The trick is to figure out which day of the week falls into that 20% category. We really don't do anything special with the air tools, other than try to keep the hoses dry the night before. When they finally do freeze up, we either do something else until they work well enough, or wrap it up and try it the next day.
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Iíve noticed that the nail guns work differently, the framers arenít terrible but the strap shot seems like it freezes up right away, 7/16 stapler wants to freeze up too.


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Strapshot guns are bad and paslode sheathing staplers to. Iíve had way better luck with hitachi.


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Generally, you can still work effectively about 80% of the time here in the Winter. The trick is to figure out which day of the week falls into that 20% category. We really don't do anything special with the air tools, other than try to keep the hoses dry the night before. When they finally do freeze up, we either do something else until they work well enough, or wrap it up and try it the next day.
Our framers stick 'em under the hood and let the truck run for awhile.

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