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Old 10-21-2018, 08:24 AM   #1
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While I do a lot of rough carpentry/labor work on a crew during the summers (I'm still knocking out a college degree), I'm trying to think through how I might organize my own crew/firm for down the road. I'm primarily interested in migrating from carpentry to GC work--ideally residential re-modeling, new constr, and light commercial. An early Oct. snow made me wonder about what type of work folks do during the winter months to keep their crews busy/happy, lights on, and bills paid.
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Old 10-21-2018, 08:35 AM   #2
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Just out of curiosity, what degree are you getting?

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Just out of curiosity, what degree are you getting?
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Hah, that's funny, I'm doing the same. Should be graduating in April with my BSc.

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Hah, that's funny, I'm doing the same. Should be graduating in April with my BSc.
I should have graduated a year ago--but life got a bit in the way.
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I should have graduated a year ago--but life got a bit in the way.
I'm familiar with that, I needed up taking an extra semester because I planned my courses poorly. Very expensive logistical error to make, however I'm now on track.

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Here, I’ve always started my spring building for the winter. Pencil out a CPM schedule to get and idea of where I think I would be in the process, and when, then design a path that maximizes or fast tracks exterior efforts early to make sure the project can move forward throughout winter. That would include civil early grading, wet and dry utilities (for power and heat) curb/gutter and a first lift of paving, pad completion, foundation (which would be spun off and all flat work sections improved prior to vertical to limit safety risk, mitigate moisture intrusion into the foundation section) push vertical, through dry in, strategically.
I am known for having a place to go work safely and comfortably when other projects are shut down. Which actually bolsters manpower numbers and decreases task durations by default when, typically, it is expected to slip. Has proven to work in multiple regions where weather can become stifling.


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We frame in the snow if we have to, ideally there’s a house or two to finish the interior on, but that doesn’t always line up, plus owners don’t want to wait to get their home finished.

We do 90% of our remodels in the winter, most homeowners/customers know this. So when you run into someone they mention doing their kitchen, bathroom, basement this winter.


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I always though if I would have gone to collage, I would have never been a builder.. Lots of easier ways to make a buck.. I would suggest a government job... Just sayin..
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I always though if I would have gone to collage, I would have never been a builder.. Lots of easier ways to make a buck.. I would suggest a government job... Just sayin..
Sound like hell. I'll just keep eeking out a living

OP. We work in the winter. Even when it's below 45.... below 35 we work real slow
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As long as the suns out it’s not bad, the big problem is guns and hoses freezing.


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Work all winter, I try and get the winter pole barn schedule filled up late summer/early fall, and make sure the site work gets done before the weather turns.

Usually around late January we are fantasizing about some inside work, but that rarely happens.

This winter, the one GC we do some work for is bidding on a big commercial remodel, if he gets that, we'll be inside for a month and a half or so...

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OP. We work in the winter. Even when it's below 45.... below 35 we work real slow
That is still T-shirt weather up north here. Warms up to zero start shedding layers.
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Work all winter here too , little slower , but what ever gets done is still better then sitting home. Don't mind the cold so much as the wind.
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That is still T-shirt weather up north here. Warms up to zero start shedding layers.
It was meant as a joke. Texas you see jobs shut down at 30.... but not at 106

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If you can keep your help off the "safety Net" of unemployment, your payroll costs drop year around for years to come....dollars you can split with high quality workers to keep the year a-round profits coming in 12 months instead of 8 or 9 months.

but no one can afford a charity operation...

Bringing a unit to the market 4 months earlier is worth At least 0.5% of the gross price per month, so can you operate on your share of the 2.0% add on? If there is a large back log of homes for sale in your zone, this money all goes away. Will the owner and GC share the savings with their subs that make it happen?

Can you extract lower prices out of your supply chain as they are less busy?

Is the building sites you have suitable for winter work? lot large enough for on site snow storage? Well drained in melt-downs?, not in a wind tunnel location? Flat enough to safely run a teleboom on snow and ice?

Temp electrical power and Natural Gas furnaces are far cheaper then diesel furnaces and a Generator set running 24/7....
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Depending on the work, Frost is another huge time killer, sometimes you gotta wait til 10 before it’s burnt off if it’s not in direct sunlight.


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Depending on the work, Frost is another huge time killer, sometimes you gotta wait til 10 before it’s burnt off if it’s not in direct sunlight.


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