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Old 10-10-2014, 05:11 AM   #1
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What do you feel is the biggest reason for the shortage of qualified tradesmen?

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What do you feel is the biggest reason for the shortage of qualified tradesmen?
To many hacks and unlicensed trades around, so old timers and legitimate guys say "screw" it @ trying to compete and waste time with all that, so they retire or venture off doing other things.

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Yep...Greg said it best.
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Working in the trades is hard and dirty and you won't get famous. It's just not worth it for most people, even if it means getting a lower paying job or having no job at all.

I love Mike Rowe on this topic: http://profoundlydisconnected.com/
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I have to wonder if somewhere along the way we stopped teaching our children how to work. There used to be vocations taught in high school that may have increased interest in the trades. With budget cuts, often that has been eliminated.
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I have to wonder if somewhere along the way we stopped teaching our children how to work. There used to be vocations taught in high school that may have increased interest in the trades. With budget cuts, often that has been eliminated.
Lack of funding/cuts in rural schools has all but eliminated vocational training in many areas. There are masses of lightly educated and undermotivated people who just don't want to dedicate themselves to one specific trade, so they bounce around looking for the greatest payday with the least effort. Yes, hacks would be one term used to discribe them.
How they became that way is, in my eyes, mostly social and a little political.
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Kids are freacking lazy brought on by parents not being parents. Hard work, video games, TV shows always showing office type workers, us saying how hard it is, the stigma that construction work is a step up from flipping burgers or pumping gas, the list is long. Also add government cheese. I had a choice (coming from a family of tradesman) go to college, the military or eat. I liked to eat.
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I am currently working on a large home in a nearby city, and the GC has brought a 76 yr old retired guy out to spin columns. Steel columns, and he wraps them with mesh then concrete with a special jig, then two finish coats of ? I will say white concrete. It looks fantastic when he's done each one.

There is just no one around that doe's that type of work - who is available.

Our drywall mud guys? treated like kings. We had to clear the main floor of the house, no dust, no workers etc. Apparently if we do work in the area where they are working they will walk off the job.

We can't hire enough finishing carpenters, the last two hired didn't have a clue. ((pay is $32/hr) one didn't know what a cope was!

GC has just started another huge house out near the university (University of British Columbia, west side of Vancouver) not sure where he's gonna get the crew as we are stretched pretty thin now.
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Millennials are lazy.
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As a young person the one thing I noticed was the push towards university in high school. The trades were treated with a certain amount of disdain by teachers and councilors and that rubbed off on a lot of kids. Get a university education or you're nobody.

I also think kids (Ha kids...I'm only 23) don't want to or don't have the patience to learn the skills that would make them a craftsman.

They are really pushing (in Alberta at least) to get more people into the trades now. It's a bit late though, the supply is so far outpaced by the demand its going to take years to balance it out.
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There is no funding problem with schools. There is a priority problem. The bulk of the cash goes into top tier pockets and dribbles down to the kids. The electronic age has made most younger people more interested in phones than hammers so I suspect it's tied in somewhat with the illegal immigration issue. They can't speak English but at least they aren't allergic to work.
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Here you have to be a pretty dumb, screw up to not be able to attend an instate college.

With the coal,oil, and gas paying top dollar with bennies for no experience, only the trash have to work in the trades And it's the bottom of the trash that have to work with wood, drywall, concrete or roofs. Terribly sad really.

That and kids are just F'n lazy.
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I don't think they are as TOUGH or thick skinned as the older generations. 25 years ago when i broke in the older guys were gruff and yelled alot, I just got used to it and yelled back. I don't uell at people much, but I will give a look and shake my head for some tho thats too much and Im the A hole.
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This used to bother me alot but now I'm just waiting for the day to charge someone $2000 to plane the bottom of their door so it closes correctly.

I really can't wait for the backlash of all these DIY reno's in 20+ years. It's gonna be fun!
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I'm pretty young myself (27). Going through high school I felt like there was a big push to get kids into college, regardless if they had a plan or not, the vocational schools were treated as an option for kids who couldn't cut it in the academic part of school. I feel like there was an attitude of joining a trade as almost a punishment or a last ditch effort to do something.
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I'm pretty young myself (27). Going through high school I felt like there was a big push to get kids into college, regardless if they had a plan or not, the vocational schools were treated as an option for kids who couldn't cut it in the academic part of school. I feel like there was an attitude of joining a trade as almost a punishment or a last ditch effort to do something.
I agree with this 100%. I'm 21 and that's exactly the mentality of people today.
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don't forget most schools like to tell students they must go to college and the trades are are drop outs, most schools has got ride of shop classes "you don't want to dig ditches all your life" Funny part is I earn more than lots of my "college educated" friends.

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The push for college is another good reason. Lots of money in higher education. Train kids to believe it's the only way to prosperity, charge them a fortune and get the government to bankroll the loans. It's a pretty slick system. I have to admire it in a way.
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It doesn't pay well enough....
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Supply and demand. 3 years ago there was no reason for anyone to get into the trades.

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