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Old 04-06-2015, 08:35 AM   #41
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I do not do to much of siding. But along way I sided maybe a dose houses. Fiber cement is nastiest thing to work with. Sadly must admit it is best and cleanest looking siding. I will in 2 weeks start work with that stuff again. My old customer require that thing at yet another house. After I few days it go in hands skin and is nasty to get anyting in hands.
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Actually you can. Hardie has their artisan line that can be mitered on OC.


I can't believe anyone would prefer vinyl over FC. FC is the closet thing looks wise to wood claps.


Any cedar I have had my hands on in the last 5 years has sucked.

I don't see how anyone could afford VG cedar claps.
Maybe it can be Mitered, but it's cement board ... Fitting the miters? why to fill them with caulk? The beauty of wood is nailing to keep the joints tight.

Vinyl - It's another option available, not my personal choice overall.

Cedar- Need to find the wholesale/distributor in your area for decent quality.

Siding with 1x12 cedar has always been a costly proposition. We're talking stylized homes and owners who want to match it. Prairie Style influence generally homes build in the 60-70's. Comes with a premium price.
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around here you better glue the corners
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around here you better glue the corners

Very nice corners

Glue's the way to go with standard profile & thicknesses of lap siding.

1x12 cedar boards as lap siding the maze nails hold just fine

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outta thanks

never did 1x12 lap but would think sealing the endgrain would be good to do..jmo
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never did 1x12 lap but would think sealing the endgrain would be good to do..jmo
Will never disagree with that.

Not commonly done in that region. The original we tied into on that job (and a hand full of others) siding was 20-25 yrs old. End grain at Butts and corners were in good shape, due to a good fit and being well maintained. Top coated heavy body stain or paint.

.... sure is a far cry from FC siding.
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yes..yes indeed
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Around here most new apartment buildings have FC on the decks. I think most owners are putting it on bc it's fireproof so they don't have to worry about the tenants melting the siding with their barbecues (a very common problem).

I like FC mainly because no one here will pay for real wood siding. Unfortunately few people install it right and we end up with problems.
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I'm in love with fiber cement siding because they have this product called color plus that I don't have to paint! God knows I hate painting.

Also, around here guys are getting 750 to a thousand dollars a square....materials cost isn't quite 100 a square. Obviously, that's ripping off Masonite and putting on new color plus with a 15 year warranty and color matched caulk. If you can install enough squares in a day the profit margins are outrageous compared to most everything else that requires a journeyman skill set.

Bottom line. Guys love it cause it's profitable.
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^^^..there ya go
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I'm in love with fiber cement siding because they have this product called color plus that I don't have to paint! God knows I hate painting.

Also, around here guys are getting 750 to a thousand dollars a square....materials cost isn't quite 100 a square. Obviously, that's ripping off Masonite and putting on new color plus with a 15 year warranty and color matched caulk. If you can install enough squares in a day the profit margins are outrageous compared to most everything else that requires a journeyman skill set.

Bottom line. Guys love it cause it's profitable.
Seriously that's some good coin for NC.
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I am trying to figure out what being a guy has to do with it and what do the girls think about it?



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Cause I'm a Yankee and everyone is referred to as guys. You guys could be in fact all girls. Some of you guys actually are.
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.materials cost isn't quite 100 a square.
Bottom line. Guys love it cause it's profitable.
That's cheap. Best I can get Hardie 6" is about 107 bucks a square and that does not count all the other materials involved.
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That's cheap. Best I can get Hardie 6" is about 107 bucks a square and that does not count all the other materials involved.
Is that a square of material or coverage? Most guys are using 8" stuff here and it is no where even close to that cost. Way way more.
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Is that a square of material or coverage? Most guys are using 8" stuff here and it is no where even close to that cost. Way way more.
That's enough to cover a square in 5 1/4" siding (4" or so reveal).

That is also buying 22 square minimum and picking it up.

The wider planks seem to cost a bit more.

This is also just the primed stuff.

Add in flashings, tar paper, trim, nails, all the other crap you need, plus paint and it blows that 100 bucks way out of the water.

Don't get me wrong, Smart side costs just as much (the diamond kote stuff is ridiculous in price), most vinyl is getting near that for good stuff.

I am trying to get a price on the Boral, but I don't like their styles that much.
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Aside from brick there is wood and a lot of stuff trying to look like wood. No matter what you do you can't get the look of a well painted wood house with any other product. Visit the garden district in New Orleans (or many other cool old towns, this is just one I have seen). It wouldn't be worth seeing if it wasn't for the painted wood exteriors.

My only problem with wood today is that it's much harder to get it to last 200 years.

So I guess brick.
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That's cheap. Best I can get Hardie 6" is about 107 bucks a square and that does not count all the other materials involved.

I'm mistaken. On 8 1/4 planks I pay 6.50 for primed and 9.75 for color plus. 7" reveal = 14 planks a square. Primed is $91.00 and color plus is $136.50 a square before waste.

Regardless, I've seen quotes as high as $1400.00 a square. My point is Hardiplank is making a lot of guys money.
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My old man is planning on FC claps and shingles for his new house and garage. Never worked with it, but looking forward to giving it a shot. It will be over a rain screen. I personally have 3 species of clapboards on my house. Spruce, VG Fir, Mahogany. I like the fir and Mahogany. I think I paid 1.02/ft for primed mahogany. the fir was .80 something because it was left over stock. I would do the mahogany again. Nice thing about fc is it comes in long lengths.
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I'm mistaken. On 8 1/4 planks I pay 6.50 for primed and 9.75 for color plus. 7" reveal = 14 planks a square. Primed is $91.00 and color plus is $136.50 a square before waste.

Regardless, I've seen quotes as high as $1400.00 a square. My point is Hardiplank is making a lot of guys money.

Wish I could get it for that here. Looking more like 200/square for the siding.

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