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Old 01-29-2015, 10:32 PM   #1
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Who Would You Not Want To Bid Against?


Here is the scenario. You really want to land a job you got a call about. Maybe it is a market you are trying to get more work in. Perhaps you are slow and just really need the work or maybe it would just be a fun project. Regardless of why, you really want this job. While leaving the driveway you see a fellow contractor talk member pulling up. Regions donít matter in this scenario.

Based on your line of work, target job and price point who would you least want bidding against you for a job you really wanted?
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Old 01-29-2015, 10:37 PM   #2
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I dont spend any time worrying about the competition. My price is my price; I set it to be competitive. People either like you or they don't. Thinking about sharpening your own game is always more effective than worrying about what the other guy is going to do.

That being said, you have to be humble enough to always learn from your competition and keep an open mind. Watch what they do and keep an open dialogue. Pros in it for the long haul are relatively congenial and open to talk about anything but money.

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You dont want me to go first. I provide them all the tools to destroy the competition for me..
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If I really wanted the job I wouldn't want to go up against most any of the regulars around here.
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Your confidence in another thread inspired this question.
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If they pass the qualification, ill sit down against anyone who isnt a low baller.

Old guys would worry me a bit. not really much else. Its like Metro said, my price is my price. If i cant sell my company the competition must of sold theirs. Good for them.

Hard to say im a seasoned vet when say, Tin or Griz or some grey hair is walking out the front door and im walking in....
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Yeah, you're right. Hate the dudes with the 50k sprinter with full vehicle wrap and their perfect seo optimized meta keyword maxistat track analyticalized convertible websites.

Bet they have brochures too.
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Im not really a salesman, if i wasnt selling to get the work i want to do i wouldnt do it. I seem to close well, but im not a studied salesman. I generally rely on a solid scope of work, and taking them to past and on going jobs, product and job knowledge. Professionalism. I got the lead from a referal, so i know they have at least one good reference.

Luckily for me most contractors around here make that enough.
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I would under bid you all just to tick you off.
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Hard to say im a seasoned vet when say, Tin or Griz or some grey hair is wheeling out the front door and im walking in....
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I dont spend any time worrying about the competition. My price is my price; I set it to be competitive. People either like you or they don't. Thinking about sharpening your own game is always more effective than worrying about what the other guy is going to do.

That being said, you have to be humble enough to always learn from your competition and keep an open mind. Watch what they do and keep an open dialogue. Pros in it for the long haul are relatively congenial and open to talk about anything but money.
What he said.

I got a call today from a good job I bid about a month ago. I walked out at the time thinking "well I'll get these other bids turned in and let fate deal it out". I was positive I'd never hear back. He called this morning, asked me to meet him. His first words-"I screwed up. Can you still squeeze me in?" Turns out he accepted a bid less than half of mine, which was middle of the road.
Like metro says, don't worry. Ever
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Hard to say im a seasoned vet when say, Tin or Griz or some grey hair is walking out the front door and im walking in....
OTOH, quite a few clients for some reason seem to prefer someone who's not shuffling along with a walker.

The OP is actually a tough question without actually seeing our compadres here in action. Hard sell, soft sell, referral/reputation... Some guys could sell their widowed grandma three cemetery plots. I couldn't, and perhaps more importantly, wouldn't.
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Madrina, because it'd be a roofing job, and I hate roofing. I'd have to high ball it to make it interesting. Then it's a question of outselling...
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Dirty, unkempt clients or competition. I really don't like going into a job where half what I do is going to be unskunging someone's home.
Nothing like coming back to a job where the owner didn't listen and turned on a fan and blew pet hair from all over the house onto my nice floor coating.
Unfortunately, dealing with them is part and parcel of life.
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I worry more about the type of person/company I am bidding to more than who I am bidding against. I also pass on quite a few jobs, even referrals, that do not fall in the type of project that is profitable for me or outside of the realm of what we are capable of doing.
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I do not devote any time to mental gymnastics and what if scenarios.My bid is my bid,I play the hand I was dealt.I cross the bridge if and when I come to it.
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I dont spend any time worrying about the competition.
This is also the philosophy of Harvey Mackay who wrote How to Swim With the Sharks Without Being Eaten, a business book bestseller. According to MacKay, if you take care of the customers, the customers will take care of the competition. I agree:

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I thought this was what contractor talk member we wouldn't want to bid against? I wouldn't care.
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