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Old 08-05-2019, 02:15 PM   #1
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Have been so far behind in work decided it was time to get some help. An going through a temp agency for that way they can handle the W/C and taxes for now. Will end up costing me about 20 an hour through them for mainly a labor . So will see how that works out . Hopefully helps me get caught up some.
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Old 08-05-2019, 03:44 PM   #2
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used to that quite a bit back in the day when i had a crew , but need one or 2 more guys for labor

it worked ok.

if it works out , you could eventually hire the guy directly, but of course then you have to deal with the taxes , or 10-99 him
also , if you have a big project, where all your guys have to be paid with full coverage, a lot of those companies are set up as employee leasing agencies , and can pay your guys for you , and do their taxes , and full cover them .
yea its about 25% or more over what you actually pay them, but in a pinch it works great

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Never heard of a temp agency for contractors. Pretty cool.


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I used them in Dallas when I would get in a bind. The temp agency would hire anyone who could fog a mirror. Sometimes they worked well. Sometimes they would be gone by morning break.

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It's the only way I would do it anymore. Too much red tape in this state.

Constant adjusting rates for what they do during the day, constant cost changes with tons of paperwork.

Get a decent guy to find your own guy and run them through the service. They deal with it all. Just pay the bill at the end of the week or month and keep on working.

If you have an office staff I could see it, but as a one man show, no way.

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I used them in Dallas when I would get in a bind. The temp agency would hire anyone who could fog a mirror. Sometimes they worked well. Sometimes they would be gone by morning break.

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They give me a 4 hr guarantee, if they don't work out can call the agency and don't have to pay.
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Good for you, though I've found new help doesn't get me ahead for about 6 months. More of an investment.
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Good for you, though I've found new help doesn't get me ahead for about 6 months. More of an investment.
At this time just need someone to keep things pickup, and a helper . Stuff that really eats up a lot of my time.
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Have been so far behind in work decided it was time to get some help. An going through a temp agency for that way they can handle the W/C and taxes for now. Will end up costing me about 20 an hour through them for mainly a labor . So will see how that works out . Hopefully helps me get caught up some.
Truth be told, a decent laborer is gonna cost you at least 20 no matter what.
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And now tou can run through a few until you find one or two you like
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How did it work out Randy ?


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Don't know yet, they have not sent anyone out. Must be having a hard time finding someone that wants to work.


Also brought my sister, who does accounting, on to help me be more organized. She is a great asset , should of done that years ago.
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Children help us in time we do not have time. For my family, it has become too expensive. I found a way out: buying a car and for my wife the best women's ski goggles. Everything went much faster. Closer to the land, I think we will complete. URL
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No 10-99"s got on my jobsite until I saw their insurance cert.

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I've used a company called tradesmen international for temp help. Very hit and miss. Most guys weren't worth anything
Got a few that were. Cost was about $25/hr all in for "experienced" people.

Ending up hiring a couple. None lasted too long. One ended up being picked up on a warrant for some weirdo sex crimes.

Haven't used them since.

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When I hired my first two guys I ran payroll through the temp agency. It cost about 150% of what their hourly wage was. So paying a guy 20 cost 30.

Now I run payroll through QuickBooks and have work comp set up through state fund. I think QuickBooks charges $30 per month for payroll.

Iím not sure how much I save but itís a pain to deal with mailing checks to all the different hands of the greedy government.

I can see why so many guys only do 1099 employees, itís a gray area here. I think itís technically illegal but you see help wanted ads requesting it. It makes sense because youíre not pissing away as much $ to the government.

I hate work comp, Iíve heard from older contractors that they used to give refunds at the end of the year. In MT when MT state fund (work comp ins.) has money left over, the current governor spends it elsewhere instead of it going back to employers.

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When I hired my first two guys I ran payroll through the temp agency. It cost about 150% of what their hourly wage was. So paying a guy 20 cost 30.

Now I run payroll through QuickBooks and have work comp set up through state fund. I think QuickBooks charges $30 per month for payroll.

Iím not sure how much I save but itís a pain to deal with mailing checks to all the different hands of the greedy government.

I can see why so many guys only do 1099 employees, itís a gray area here. I think itís technically illegal but you see help wanted ads requesting it. It makes sense because youíre not pissing away as much $ to the government.

I hate work comp, Iíve heard from older contractors that they used to give refunds at the end of the year. In MT when MT state fund (work comp ins.) has money left over, the current governor spends it elsewhere instead of it going back to employers.

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This is what makes it not worth doing your own wc. That is cheap money for them to do the paperwork.

If a guy is costing me 30, I'm still making 30 on him. I can live with that. I'd be fine with 20, if I don"t have the headaches and oversight of the wc board.

Mine was costing me 25 for 14. At the time I still made 20 on them.

Unless things went totally haywire on a flat rate job but that's the risk you take.

I'd be interested in how much you are saving if you add in your time and headaches for paperwork, plus the actual cost of wc and other payroll expenses.

In a large company where you have bookkeepers it makes sense, as it is an all day every day thing to keep track of it.

As a one or two man show, not so much.

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