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Old 10-29-2009, 01:12 PM   #61
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I know that accepting cash and drawing unemployment may not be the most ethical thing to do. But to me most of this blame lies on the person paying the cash. If I don't have work for my employees and they are laid off, they try to work for cash and some one is willing to pay them, then so be it. It may ultimately drive up my UI rate but it seems I have failed the employee by not providing work. Assuming it is an employee that was for released for lack of work. If the employee was released for other unacceptable reasons then the previous employer can petition and refuse his or hers unemployment.
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Old 10-29-2009, 02:14 PM   #62
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I know that accepting cash and drawing unemployment may not be the most ethical thing to do. But to me most of this blame lies on the person paying the cash. If I don't have work for my employees and they are laid off, they try to work for cash and some one is willing to pay them, then so be it. It may ultimately drive up my UI rate but it seems I have failed the employee by not providing work. Assuming it is an employee that was for released for lack of work. If the employee was released for other unacceptable reasons then the previous employer can petition and refuse his or hers unemployment.
You can claim cash as income too...you do know that, right?
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You can claim cash as income too...you do know that, right?
Accord to UI regs, you MUST claim all monies recieved. Anything not declared makes you inelligable for further UC and you must repay any UC payments recieved when you recieved these monies. Otherwise its known as fraud!
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that was my point, izzy seems to think that it's not 21's fault...he just go paid in cash, so it doesn't count

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that was my point, izzy seems to think that it's not 21's fault...he just go paid in cash, so it doesn't count

Reiteration of your post JF. I was agreeing with you.
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Well, now I'm agreeing with you agreeing with me....your turn
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this thread has definitely taught me something. i went and picked up my tools and i'll be getting my final pay tomorrow. i'm not feeling so angry anymore but it does suck losing a job you thought you had for a while. whatever the case is i didnt give him any crap and took your guys advice. i walked in, grabbed my tools, shook his hand and left. i'll do the same tomorrow when i get my pay.
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good job, now go kick somebody's cat and you'll really feel better
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good job, now go kick somebody's cat and you'll really feel better
im gonna head down to the shooting range fire a few from da 9. possibly take a picture of my boss down for a target
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this thread has definitely taught me something. i went and picked up my tools and i'll be getting my final pay tomorrow. i'm not feeling so angry anymore but it does suck losing a job you thought you had for a while. whatever the case is i didnt give him any crap and took your guys advice. i walked in, grabbed my tools, shook his hand and left. i'll do the same tomorrow when i get my pay.
Well played. The handshake was good too. That was the classy way to do it
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im gonna head down to the shooting range fire a few from da 9. possibly take a picture of my boss down for a target
Still don't understand why you are pizzed at him....you was gonna shaft him a couple of weeks anyways.
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i'm not feeling so angry anymore but it does suck losing a job you thought you had for a while. whatever the case is i didnt give him any crap and took your guys advice. i walked in, grabbed my tools, shook his hand and left. i'll do the same tomorrow when i get my pay
You may have unknowingly stumbled upon one of the basic premises of what we teach in our classes: Learning how to lessen the intensity of your emotional responses.

Another neat saying that goes along with it... "Let your emotions subside, then decide."
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Still don't understand why you are pizzed at him....you was gonna shaft him a couple of weeks anyways.
well i realize my anger was not really directed at him versus the situation. i'm mad i lost the job, and that he bs'd me about work throughout the winter. i was never going to shaft him, i would of given him a notice if he wanted one. thinking with a cleared head, i really do not care that much. i hated working for him, i thought the guy was a prick from day 1, and i couldnt wait to quit. an hour before he called me to tell me he didnt need me anymore i was talking to my friend about finding a new job. so, i guess i got what i wanted.
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You can claim cash as income too...you do know that, right?
Yes, I did thanks for the in-site. Most of the time cash means tax exempt "under the table". Contractor doesn't count him as an employee to save on his tax burden. And if he claims to 1099 him but treats him as an employee that's illegal as well. But to answer your question I assume both parties are acting illegally.
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well i realize my anger was not really directed at him versus the situation. i'm mad i lost the job, and that he bs'd me about work throughout the winter. i was never going to shaft him, i would of given him a notice if he wanted one.
I won't go into the rights wrongs or whatever of the whole thread.but I will agree that boses hold the upper hand in that some will lie to get you to stay on untill they have used you up.

RARELY do they give notice of canning you but expect that you notify with a standard 2 weeks if you're leaving.

Be glad you have work lined up before you got released MANY MANY others haven't had that lick.

As to the rest of your actions you did what you had to do in your mind as far as what you did with reporting/not reporting income and doing what you thought best to save your self.

BUT be WELL advised that if(WHEN) it comes back to bite you in the rump YOU and ONLY you are to be held accountable.
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izzy, thanks for the "insight" k
































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now pay back unemployment and the taxes on the cash you collected
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Well, I totally disagree with you. You whine and complain. You make excuses. You worry about paying your bills but you take your 'toy' to the shooting range to relieve some anger? Grow up. Life is tough. Only the strong survive.

There, now grow up and let go of mommy's apron strings. You can do it...
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im gonna head down to the shooting range fire a few from da 9. possibly take a picture of my boss down for a target

You should be heading down to the unemployment office and telling them you need to change your previous reporting,..That you lied, and you really did have some income when you reported other wise,..........

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How can a "responsible" person, who is unemployed, and worry about paying bill & short of money$$.. BUT STILL enjoy other hobby like shooting, etc.. like nothing happened??.. is way beyond my comprehension!?? (kiddie attitude?) .. unless he is still getting free money$ source somewhere else??

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