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Old 02-27-2014, 08:06 AM   #21
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I agree with reconstructs, get paid before starting the next job, just to be safe.
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Old 02-27-2014, 10:21 AM   #22
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Tell that to the folks who called me at 12:15 AM one night because the wind had ripped one of our tarps off and water was getting into their bedroom. Matter of fact, their bed.

The GC was notoriously unavailable almost any time except when a draw was due, so I always made sure the client had my number for such things. He's been out of business for quite some time now, and those folks are insanely loyal to me.
that's YOUR business Tinstaafl , not mine.

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Old 02-27-2014, 10:28 AM   #23
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If I call a business line and don't get answer, I may or may leave a voicemail.

If I'm looking to have work done, first thing I consider is if the phone is answered or not. Last thing I want is the contractor calling me back during dinner time.
that might be a valid concern for you Bam.
In my case- it's going to be days at least before I would be able to even look at a prospective job- and weeks or months before we would do it-------------------

so- if they can't wait until this eve. to talk to me, I am just not going to be able to help them. They are certainly free to call someone else.
However-- if we DO talk this eve.- they will have my complete attention.
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his voice mail is full
he has never asked my price
the jobs are all last minute
I do them at T&M
now he has 2 invoices
Sounds like a one way relationship.
What would annoy me the most is the "M" part as he literally has no skin in the game other than to get paid. If I'm doing tm for another contractor, there is no m on my side because it's not my job.
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he ignored my email

saw him today...we didn't talk about what was on the messages....he said it just gets full sometimes

he was wearing sweat pants.....he's an odd sort....nice guy, but not as professional as im used to....

I go to bid on a job for him tomorrow....I may ask for payment for job #1 before I do job #3........its a struggle how to bring it up and not look like a ahole

it tells him I have 0 trust in him...that I want to be paid early.....

if he pays on time he could be a very good contact...he has a job for me per week...im ready to hire and he could be a major part of the equation

the last job was about $1,000 shy of what it should have been(because it was T&M and I hustled like crazy).....we will see what he says to a real bid at full price....it may end on its own
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Maybe he doesn't take guys without beards seriously...
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Yea,
I'm thinking it's going to end on its own.....this scenario has flags going up all over the place....


Are , or ,- were you ,going to rely on a GC to keep your business moving.....
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It depends what kind of sweats he has. If they have a zipper fly you are probably ok. If not, then you're in trouble.
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I guess I don't understand the whole contractor/sub-contractor dynamic-------------- as in why on earth you would be looking at job #3 when you haven't been paid for #1 yet.

I used to have a guy(mike) who cleaned up roof tear-offs for us at $8/sq.. Soon as he was done each day I paid him on the spot and gave him the address for the next days job.

He was constantly telling me about contractors who would not pay HIM until THEY collected on the final payment from the customer. I have never understood linking those to separate events............

anyhow- his own brother was a roofing contractor and repeatedly stiffed him on cleanups-and mike would continue to do more cleanups for him.

I guess some people really just WANT to be taken advantage of.....
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he ignored my email

saw him today...we didn't talk about what was on the messages....he said it just gets full sometimes
I go to bid on a job for him tomorrow
Man, ain't no quit in you. Con artists depend upon that. This is how we read about people that have been conned, realize it, but keep on sending that nigerian prince more and more money.

Can you send me $100? I'll give you back $120 next week. And if I don't, let's just not talk about it. But I'll probably need you to front me $150 next week. Might as well as you're already into me for $100.
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It depends what kind of sweats he has. If they have a zipper fly you are probably ok. If not, then you're in trouble.
Yup, all else seems fine, but those sweats are raising serious flags.
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I had a builder that used to pay great. Over the past year, they started slow paying, and it became obvious that they were having to finish other jobs to pay me for jobs already finished. I told them I could no longer work without 50% upfront. Never heard from them again. Sad, given our years of good relations.
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Total scenario screams red flag. I've worked for a guy who wanted just a ballpark over the phone and details worked out later. Got paid, but always after some haggling.

Send him a few texts. He'll get them. If he doesn't respond even to those...tread very carefully dealing with him.

As far as the mailbox being full, there could be many scenarios, good or bad, but bottom line, it just isn't good business. Potential clients, first time calling you and don't get to leave a message, guess what, they are not calling back. They'll move on to contractor second on their list. Why? Besides the fact that most people want answers/results now, now, NOW! (at least here in NY) it shows that you are not communicating with your clients at all times.
In this day and age, access to your contractor isn't a phone call at 8:30 when they get home from work and check their answering machine. Smart phones took all that away.

Its a good point to check your messages and re-record your phone message each morning, "Hi you reached *** construction, it's March 2nd, I'm sorry I missed you and I'll get back to you within the hour." This screams that you organized, reliable and overall on top of your game!
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he ignored my email

saw him today...we didn't talk about what was on the messages....he said it just gets full sometimes

he was wearing sweat pants.....he's an odd sort....nice guy, but not as professional as im used to....

I go to bid on a job for him tomorrow....I may ask for payment for job #1 before I do job #3........its a struggle how to bring it up and not look like a ahole

it tells him I have 0 trust in him...that I want to be paid early.....

if he pays on time he could be a very good contact...he has a job for me per week...im ready to hire and he could be a major part of the equation

the last job was about $1,000 shy of what it should have been(because it was T&M and I hustled like crazy).....we will see what he says to a real bid at full price....it may end on its own

who the hell says you have to give anyone credit? I dont give anyone credit..I have a couple guys that been doing business over 15 years.I float them SOMETIMES..

I dont use my money and when Im done I want to be paid. PERIOD.

Ive taken over 50,000 in losses form not being paid form dead beats.

don't get caught in that cycles..

I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today..get squared up and then proceed.

simply tell him we dont really know each other and before we move forward lets square up.in the future things stay on the up, I will give you 30 days.if he has a problem with that..drop him like a limp di ck.

you owe him nothing..you do however owe yourself and family. I am always very cautious and leary of cold calling GCs.
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Maybe your contractor doesn't answer the phone if he sees a strange number.
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Sorry but my two cents I'd full mailbox is a huge red flag. Especially after a say or two. I don't need contact or a callback immediately but a potential sub will get one second attempt at a phone call. A customer or a potential employee with a full voicemailbox will never get called again. I'm too busy to chase after people who are perpetually unavailable. Everyone I have ever known or heard of with a full voicemailbox longer than a day or two was a complete dirtbag.
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I really dislike voicemail. All of my closest work associates and friends know not to leave me one. I can see with my "smart" phone that someone called me and I call back when I've climbed down off a ladder or put the paint brush down. Having to listen to their voicemail takes longer than calling them back. That being said though, I'm adamant about deleting them as soon as I've heard them. Not everyone has the same philosophy. Some of us are just more organized with our communication. Sometimes it's difficult to handle 15 to 30 texts and phone calls while you're working. This guy, if he's serious about his business, really needs to improve his communication skills.
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An electrician I have used has a voice mail that is always full. He is a great electrician and a good business man..... Other than the fact that he never checks his voice mail. If he has a missed call from you he calls you back though.
This reminds me of a very old school type business man I know well, for some reason he never responded to any of my emails, so one day in his office I ask him why, he said take a look at my inbox, WOW he had over 33,000 un-read emails in his inbox.

This guy only uses the telephone to communicate.
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builder never signed contract #3, but somehow thought Id be on the jobsite today....

I called him tonight...his phone is full again (it wasn't a few days ago)

so this voice mail thing is a major problem for him...don't see how anyone can run a business with their voice messages being full

if I don't get paid I lien the house....ive never lost....once the homeowner see's the legal letters they yell at the builder....and I get paid....

how can I collect when it hasn't been 30 days yet? .....very few GC's pay quicker than 30 days...I have a bunch, but its definitely not the norm.....

im going to do a legal search on the WI court system for this guy

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