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Old 07-12-2015, 04:11 PM   #41
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Old 07-12-2015, 04:14 PM   #42
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There is a second story, the water entered because of an improperly installed step flashing along a porch.

As said, it was one rain storm and only enough water got through to allow roughly 1/4" to fill up into that bucket. No water came into the house anywhere else except over the buckets on top of the fridge.

My only concern is that if you look close enough, on the far left there are old water stains that were there long before we came along.
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Get it in writing to the owner that you are going to repair any issues that are your fault, and find a tactful, non-defensive way to point out that there is evidence of previous water infiltration: "Please let us know when *** Restoration Co. will be there, so that we can evaluate separately any effects from the water let in by our faulty step flashing, and the effects from the prior water infiltration that caused the yellow stains." Or something like that.

If this just happened the once, you may not have that much to worry about - it gets dried up, sheetrock repair and some painting. I would insist on having the opportunity to do the repair or contract it, so the restoration company's bid has some price competition.
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My experience is that ServePro and the like are expensive (all that overhead) but reasonable, not spreading panic or fear about mold, structural problems, or any of that.
I can counter balance that from experience...
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I can counter balance that from experience...
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It's all controlled by the franchisee. Once it's torn out, there's no evidence left, and the tear out and repair bill goes up. Double motivation for over doing things.
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It's all controlled by the franchisee. Once it's torn out, there's no evidence left, and the tear out and repair bill goes up. Double motivation for over doing things.
I worked for one of those restoration companies for a while like I said earlier.

All I'm going to say is that I'm glad I'm not there anymore.
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It's all controlled by the franchisee. Once it's torn out, there's no evidence left, and the tear out and repair bill goes up. Double motivation for over doing things.
And scaring the homeowners to death
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I won't mention the lead paint test that came up positive on trim installed and painted less than a year earlier...
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So it turns out their is an AC unit up above where the leak happened that had pooling water.

They had a condensation house that ran out the siding onto the roof. We removed three layers (one cedar) resheathed the roof deck and installed new shingles.

Our friends at servpro want to remove an 8x8 area, another few areas and do their work from there.

This is from a condensation hose that ran a few times in the past two weeks. I don't see how any damage can be that extensive. I'll be contacting my liability insurance company to get a second opinion.
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I'll be contacting my liability insurance company to get a second opinion.
I agree - it seems an over zealous tear out.
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How is this your problem now? Doesn't seem to be the roof leaking.
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So it turns out their is an AC unit up above where the leak happened that had pooling water.

They had a condensation house that ran out the siding onto the roof. We removed three layers (one cedar) resheathed the roof deck and installed new shingles.

Our friends at servpro want to remove an 8x8 area, another few areas and do their work from there.

This is from a condensation hose that ran a few times in the past two weeks. I don't see how any damage can be that extensive. I'll be contacting my liability insurance company to get a second opinion.
So they want to remove shingles? or drywall?
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Drywall, plaster.
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Drywall, plaster.
My best guess is that they want to error on the side of caution. Sure they could tear less out but in the future if something did happen for whatever reason it's their reputation and necks on the line.

But like I said before take what I say with a grain of salt. Most of what I'm saying is what I gleaned overhearing my bosses talking.
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So it turns out their is an AC unit up above where the leak happened that had pooling water.

They had a condensation house that ran out the siding onto the roof. We removed three layers (one cedar) resheathed the roof deck and installed new shingles.

Our friends at servpro want to remove an 8x8 area, another few areas and do their work from there.

This is from a condensation hose that ran a few times in the past two weeks. I don't see how any damage can be that extensive. I'll be contacting my liability insurance company to get a second opinion.
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How is this your problem now? Doesn't seem to be the roof leaking.
Yeah if it's a condensation hose how are you still involved?
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I'm no longer involved. I let my liability company know the situation, they will be investigating the situation and handling it from there.
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I worked for one of those restoration companies for a while like I said earlier.

All I'm going to say is that I'm glad I'm not there anymore.
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I won't mention the lead paint test that came up positive on trim installed and painted less than a year earlier...
Seems as if I've been lucky.
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Crew removed or moved the hose, maybe, would be a reason for the insurance company to look at it.
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Seems as if I've been lucky.
Np, it's just what happens when you have a franchised business. Right off the bat it's a six figure sum just to start up, I don't know if the drying equipment is included in that cost or that's separate but either way most of those machines start at $500 and go up to $2000.

Then there's all the other costs of running a business, not to mention that it's emergency services, unsure about how the insurance works down there but up here once a claim goes into the insurance company they have a list of vendors able to handle it.

Unless it was a sob story told to keep me in line once you're alerted to a claim you have a limited amount of time to accept it, not to mention becoming a preferred vendor is hard to do.

Then there's the reputation, if you do a job and something happens later on down the road, it could hurt you.

Add all that onto the wrong person and they'll start to crack, start to cut the same corners as everyone else, even though their entire crew is extremely uncomfortable with doing it.

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