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Old 04-30-2020, 06:14 PM   #21
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That gets rid of a lot of it, but NOT all of it.
the way he does it it all goes out, he has been doing it for 40 years
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Old 04-30-2020, 06:32 PM   #22
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Given I'm the last one in the walls before they're filled in by Itchy and Scratchy, I'm in the habit of photographing every wall and ceiling on the project. Sure helps months down the road when no one can remember exactly where something was.
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That's great for open floor plan situations. The electrician on our addition did something like that, except he just wrote on the sheathing and folded it in tight.
Canít do that here, all the pigtails have to be done before rough-in inspection.
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Trying to turn off a circuit for a room, and the panel isn't clearly labled? Plug / run a vaccum cleaner. Youll know when you found the right circuit.

I know of another, but that's a "do as I say" thing.
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I have a dedicated "black water" shop vac.

I hate pulling a WC with even a little water in it.

Works great for pulling a WC that's clogged, too.





Unchaining the skid steer/mini ex: When I'm in a hurry I'll just undo the rear binder, hop on the machine, back up a few inches, and un-hook the front binder without ratcheting it out.
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no one seems to like this tip but I swear by it. I have a dedicated bucket vac that I only use for toilets. A rag hangs over the exhaust so no vapor plume.



Anytime I pull a toilet I vac out the tank then the bowl. Makes life so much easier. No mess no drips.
I had a drain that wouldn't get unclogged. Snaked it, didn't work. He loaned me his power snake. Still wasn't working.

He told me take my shop vac and hook to the drain and just suck it out. Man, hard to believe the drain worked at all considering the amount of gunk that came out.

That vac immediacy became my black water vac. It still sits lonely and abandoned until needed.

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I had a drain that wouldn't get unclogged. Snaked it, didn't work. He loaned me his power snake. Still wasn't working.

He told me take my shop vac and hook to the drain and just suck it out. Man, hard to believe the drain worked at all considering the amount of gunk that came out.

That vac immediacy became my black water vac. It still sits lonely and abandoned until needed.

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I've been doing that for years. You close other drains in the room to increase suction, and I wrap a rubber glove around the intersection of the vac hose and the drain you're cleaning. Increases suction. Amazing how far down a drain line you can suck junk out of.

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Speaking of drains, and maybe this is commonly known....

I clear lots of lavatory sink drains for tenants and family, and rarely do I drop the P-trap. I reach into the cabinet and unscrew the pop-up lever arm from the tailpiece, then 1/4" hand auger from above. Fast and easy. (Just remember to reinstall the pop-up lever.)
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Speaking of drains, and maybe this is commonly known....

I clear lots of lavatory sink drains for tenants and family, and rarely do I drop the P-trap. I reach into the cabinet and unscrew the pop-up lever arm from the tailpiece, then 1/4" hand auger from above. Fast and easy. (Just remember to reinstall the pop-up lever.)
Just make sure the cable didn't punch through the trap....

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Waste of time. The location of the box alone should tell you what it supplies. A black and a white? You need a receptacle. A stripped black and a stripped white? You need a GFCI. Two blacks and two whites? You need a GFCI.... the stripped black and white are the line, the unstripped are the load. Two blacks? You need a switch. Three blacks (or black/black/red or black/white/red)? You need a 3-way, the one wrapped around the other two is the common. 4 wires? You need a 4-way.


If I have multiple devices in the multi-gang box, each 'gang' area has the wires for that device already marked as such and neatly folded into that area. So if I have a black/white 12, a black/black 14 and a black/white/red 14, I know I need a recep, a SP switch and a 3way. I don't need to know the recep is Line-Load GRCI protected, the SP is for the deck light and the 3-way is for the kitchen light. That was all decided before I started banging on boxes.


I don't need to look into every box during rough-in to get a device count. I did that back when I got the rough-in inspection done. My box of devices has the correct number of devices, breakers etc. needed to trim the job. After getting the rough-in draw, I purchased all the switches, breakers, receptacles, GFCIs, smokes etc.
That works great if the guy roping is the guy doing make ups. A lot of times they are two different people, and sometimes weeks/months pass between roping and make up.
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That works great if the guy roping is the guy doing make ups. A lot of times they are two different people, and sometimes weeks/months pass between roping and make up.
You should be making up at rough. Bang on boxes, drill holes, pull NM, make everything up.

You're spending way too much time marking every cable in every box. Time better spent just making the damned thing up. And the time it takes someone months later to 'figure out' how to make up a box.... say, a 4-gang with 3 different circuits in it. If it was already made up at rough, there's NO guesswork, NO reading labels, NO re-engineering what has already been engineered before.

Yeah, I know... the builder wants everything done yesterday, so it's convenient to just rope and beat feet outta there so the rockers can start in. But why is it electricians are always expected to make every other trade's job go quicker and easier? If you can't take 4-6 hours to make up your rough-in before the insulators come in, you're not very fast to begin with.

Maybe it's because you spent too much time cutting NM sheaths and pulling Sharpies out of your pocket all day.
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Old 05-02-2020, 08:26 PM   #32
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Doing a bunch of network cable home runs I'll color code and possibly label. Not something I'd do on electric
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You should be making up at rough. Bang on boxes, drill holes, pull NM, make everything up.

You're spending way too much time marking every cable in every box. Time better spent just making the damned thing up. And the time it takes someone months later to 'figure out' how to make up a box.... say, a 4-gang with 3 different circuits in it. If it was already made up at rough, there's NO guesswork, NO reading labels, NO re-engineering what has already been engineered before.

Yeah, I know... the builder wants everything done yesterday, so it's convenient to just rope and beat feet outta there so the rockers can start in. But why is it electricians are always expected to make every other trade's job go quicker and easier? If you can't take 4-6 hours to make up your rough-in before the insulators come in, you're not very fast to begin with.

Maybe it's because you spent too much time cutting NM sheaths and pulling Sharpies out of your pocket all day.
Lucky for my sparkies everything must be made up before inspection. Don't worry, I still want everything done yesterday!
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Lucky for my sparkies everything must be made up before inspection. Don't worry, I still want everything done yesterday!
Of course you want it done yesterday. If you wanted it done by tomorrow, you'd call me tomorrow!
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I don't know if it's a trick or not, but it's nice to put extra blocking in for certain stuff, like shower doors and tp holders, etc.

Not a bad idea to nail 2x4 scraps to the door framing so the switches won't be too close to the casings. I hate switches close to them..or even touching.
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I don't know if it's a trick or not, but it's nice to put extra blocking in for certain stuff, like shower doors and tp holders, etc.

Not a bad idea to nail 2x4 scraps to the door framing so the switches won't be too close to the casings. I hate switches close to them..or even touching.
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Here's a trick to address complaints of a mystery foul odor a bathroom.

Before you start thinking about the toilet's wax seal, try pouring a splash of bleach down the lavy sink and let it sit for a bit without rinsing. (It neutralizes the goop above the trap, where it accumulates at the bottom of the sink overflow.)
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Here's a trick to address complaints of a mystery foul odor a bathroom.



Before you start thinking about the toilet's wax seal, try pouring a splash of bleach down the lavy sink and let it sit for a bit without rinsing. (It neutralizes the goop above the trap, where it accumulates at the bottom of the sink overflow.)


Refill the trap in the floor drain or shower drain in a little used basement bathroom.

It eliminates the odor. If you use water, that is.


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I don't know if it's a trick or not, but it's nice to put extra blocking in for certain stuff, like shower doors and tp holders, etc.

Not a bad idea to nail 2x4 scraps to the door framing so the switches won't be too close to the casings. I hate switches close to them..or even touching.
Me or my electrician always block out switches at doors and in corners. I prefer to do it myself because if the electrician does it you can guarantee a hump in the drywall.

When I do it I rip 1/4Ē of the blocking to keep it just inside the edges of the studs.
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