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Old 06-04-2019, 01:09 AM   #1
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I'm gonna get the Stabila 7 12 plate fairly soon..... like ouch like 400 bones ouch fairly soon but, I was kinda pissed at the framers for the janky job they did with a kitchen that will feature 100K in cabs and appliances and was willing to shell out a hondo for an Empire at HD. Kinda wanted that extra foot over my 72 Jamber...so I took my Jamber into HD and can you guess what happened when I stacked it up with the Empire?

Hint: Still got the hondo in my pocket

Yeah I'll get one of the other ones at some point, no need to drop the coin for a Stabila 96 if I'm gonna get a mag plate anyways. but Jeesh such crap out there.

Maybe we need better framers.
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Old 06-04-2019, 01:40 AM   #2
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In a pinch, walls can be framed plumb with a simple plumb dot laser... Are you responsible for checking the work after or during its installation? Or was this just something that was caught after the fact?
And I do empathize with the need for more accurate framing... I just removed a 5/8" bump in a wall the other week where cabinetry was to be installed... And that framing was done by folks on my own team, so it's a bitter pill to swallow.

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In a pinch, walls can be framed plumb with a simple plumb dot laser... Are you responsible for checking the work after or during its installation? Or was this just something that was caught after the fact?
And I do empathize with the need for more accurate framing... I just removed a 5/8" bump in a wall the other week where cabinetry was to be installed... And that framing was done by folks on my own team, so it's a bitter pill to swallow.

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In a pinch, walls can be framed plumb with a simple plumb dot laser... Are you responsible for checking the work after or during its installation? Or was this just something that was caught after the fact?
And I do empathize with the need for more accurate framing... I just removed a 5/8" bump in a wall the other week where cabinetry was to be installed... And that framing was done by folks on my own team, so it's a bitter pill to swallow.

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The company is a little short-handed and I was the first guy to check framing after it was done a while ago. A wet header on a back wall got us 3/8 at 8 out with a brand new slider that was supposedly all good. A 4x6 on the front wall had to lose over a 1/4 right where the windows and backsplash meet and a bunch of other studs needed double/triple felt and/or 1/4 ply for the cabs and splashes. In being that I will be one of the guys seeing this one to completion then yeah it's my responsibility. Laser would have worked, so would other things but 5/8???? ouch. This is why I want the plate level to come in right after frame and check everything quickly.
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I'm gonna get the Stabila 7 12 plate fairly soon..... like ouch like 400 bones ouch fairly soon but, I was kinda pissed at the framers for the janky job they did with a kitchen that will feature 100K in cabs and appliances and was willing to shell out a hondo for an Empire at HD. Kinda wanted that extra foot over my 72 Jamber...so I took my Jamber into HD and can you guess what happened when I stacked it up with the Empire?

Hint: Still got the hondo in my pocket

Yeah I'll get one of the other ones at some point, no need to drop the coin for a Stabila 96 if I'm gonna get a mag plate anyways. but Jeesh such crap out there.

Maybe we need better framers.
When I go looking for levels I have a hard time finding one that is both level and plumb accurate. I was pleasantly surprised when the levels my kids got me for my birthday were both spot on. They were the LED Empires.
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ha!
on that same note ,( un-plumb walls)
this morning
i came into a bathroom that i gutted , and re-drywalled , and hardi-backer`ed.
i even skimmed all smooth , thinking i only have to get the tile in , and then paint
tile guy leveled as he went ,( as he should )
i never checked these walls , its probably a 50`s house, nice area .
his tiles go from flush on the bottom , to a full inch out !!
meaning i`m gonna have to float that 8 foot high wall out, one inch to nothing , for about 5 feet ( thats to the corner behind the door)

I should have used ANY LEVEL , AND CHECKED IT !!
JUST NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD BE OUT A FREAKIN INCH!!
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I get that all the time when I put 1/4" scribes on tall cabinets and need a 1/2" for a scribe. Been saved a few times because they were adding tile to the wall and that sucks up 3/8" or so.
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ha!
on that same note ,( un-plumb walls)
this morning
i came into a bathroom that i gutted , and re-drywalled , and hardi-backer`ed.
i even skimmed all smooth , thinking i only have to get the tile in , and then paint
tile guy leveled as he went ,( as he should )
i never checked these walls , its probably a 50`s house, nice area .
his tiles go from flush on the bottom , to a full inch out !!
meaning i`m gonna have to float that 8 foot high wall out, one inch to nothing , for about 5 feet ( thats to the corner behind the door)

I should have used ANY LEVEL , AND CHECKED IT !!
JUST NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD BE OUT A FREAKIN INCH!!
Oh man, he must have have been using that Empire level I didn't buy lol
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I get that all the time when I put 1/4" scribes on tall cabinets and need a 1/2" for a scribe. Been saved a few times because they were adding tile to the wall and that sucks up 3/8" or so.
If it wasn't for scribe and caulk.......
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Tiling in an old house, plumb doesn't count as much as square. When I find an old house that's plumb and square, I paint the curb golden.

Still haven't taken the cap off the can.
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When I go looking for levels I have a hard time finding one that is both level and plumb accurate. I was pleasantly surprised when the levels my kids got me for my birthday were both spot on. They were the LED Empires.
Co coworker said the same thing, he's holding on to his really old ones, I can't even tell what brands they were, heck, I can barely read them. It's why I started buying the Stabilas with the case to carry them all....ok....yeah there's just a little bit of showing off when I walk in with the Jamber case slung over my shoulder lol.
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Tiling in an old house, plumb doesn't count as much as square. When I find an old house that's plumb and square, I paint the curb golden.

Still haven't taken the cap off the can.
As long as it looks square and plumb, that's all that matters in an old house. It usually ends up being a bunch of optical illusions lol.
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Co coworker said the same thing, he's holding on to his really old ones, I can't even tell what brands they were, heck, I can barely read them. It's why I started buying the Stabilas with the case to carry them all....ok....yeah there's just a little bit of showing off when I walk in with the Jamber case slung over my shoulder lol.
Generally the brand doesn't matter if you can find a good one. The viles are usually glued in and can't move, so if you get a good one, as long as you don't bend it, it'll last you a good long time.

I've really been enjoying the magnets on my Empire's. Mostly for storage though, just stick them to the underside of the roof of my steel boxes.
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Tiling in an old house, plumb doesn't count as much as square. When I find an old house that's plumb and square, I paint the curb golden.

Still haven't taken the cap off the can.
Won’t be using that paint on many new houses either.
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Won’t be using that paint on many new houses either.
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ha!
on that same note ,( un-plumb walls)
i even skimmed all smooth , thinking i only have to get the tile in , and then paint
tile guy leveled as he went ,( as he should )
iH!!
Did he use thinset?
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Obviously,it is very difficult if not almost impossible to correct walls with top and bottom plates not plumb. However,for areas in homes that demand straight ,square and plumb walls with no "bumps" ,such as kitchens and baths,you can't beat the quality LSL studs will provide.

As far as levels go,obviously Stabila is a good choice,my preference though is Sola.
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Tiling in an old house, plumb doesn't count as much as square. When I find an old house that's plumb and square, I paint the curb golden.

Still haven't taken the cap off the can.
There is one in Franklin Wisconsin, verified by drywallers. Didn't have to trim an edge anywhere to fit. Good tight rockers too. 5 Stars in his book of framers. Outside of that, nobody gave a gnats fart, and it was a one of. Never to be repeated to that degree again. Can't leverage quality for higher return, aka more money, farq em.

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Does everyone else’s levels somehow get knocked over or just seem to fall to the ground no matter where you put them? Even if you put it in a corner 25 feet from where your working....somehow you just hear it sliding and crash to the floor every time? No matter what.....they slam to the ground or is it just me??
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Does everyone else’s levels somehow get knocked over or just seem to fall to the ground no matter where you put them? Even if you put it in a corner 25 feet from where your working....somehow you just hear it sliding and crash to the floor every time? No matter what.....they slam to the ground or is it just me??
Yep and the longer they are the harder they fall. The cheap plastic ones never break.

I have some older heavy aluminum Port Austins or Sands the glass is cracked on nearly all of them but the vials still read true on all but one. These are heavy levels for their length.

My big Stabila has taken a fall to the floor a few times.

If it's a rough environment and they read fairly true I see nothing wrong with using cheap plastic ones if you bust em you're not out 100's.

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