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Old 01-28-2016, 10:09 AM   #1
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Hey guys a quick question for y'all. We are doing a large restoration of a customers second home that's not being lived in at the time. We received 44" s of the white stuff and are going to have 32 man hours of snow removal and 6 machine hours.

Is that I the contractors financial responsibility or the customers? I don't really care one way or the other as I assumed it would happen but the missus is saying I should charge the HO...
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Old 01-28-2016, 10:25 AM   #2
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I wouldn't charge the HO unless your contract specifically addresses the issue. I always assume I'll be clearing snow and estimate accordingly.

I think my contract says something like "contractor will remove snow and ice from project areas". Just because I'm already shoveling down the side of the house doesn't mean I'm going to clear the driveway too (in an occupied house).

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Usually this is covered by the contract, not what the missus thinks. You're responsible for getting the job done, if you have to move snow to do that, it's your problem unless the contract says differently.

I could see an argument that you were prepared for historically normal snow, so if this is a major fluke, I'd consider asking for a partial.
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If it means keeping the job on schedule, we would man the shovels.
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Hey guys a quick question for y'all. We are doing a large restoration of a customers second home that's not being lived in at the time. We received 44" s of the white stuff and are going to have 32 man hours of snow removal and 6 machine hours.

Is that I the contractors financial responsibility or the customers? I don't really care one way or the other as I assumed it would happen but the missus is saying I should charge the HO...

That's just common sense.

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Just want to clarify I am not trying to get out of the physical aspect of it. Its already done we finished clearing the entrance road and 40' around the structure today. Just wanted to hear if you guys built snow removal in your bids or billed HO per beyond normal accumulation occurrence.
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Just want to clarify I am not trying to get out of the physical aspect of it. Its already done we finished clearing the entrance road and 40' around the structure today. Just wanted to hear if you guys built snow removal in your bids or billed HO per beyond normal accumulation occurrence.
After the week I just had ....Am I gonna bill the G/C for the same issues he had to deal with? Hell naw!!


If you work in conditions beyond your control ? You gotta pull up your big boy pants and eat It!

This Is construction ! We get hot...We get cold...We get dirty!


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Devil's Advocate:

Did the snow fall on his property? What's the difference if it was a tree that fell across the driveway, preventing you from getting access?

In reality, if you don't write it in there ahead of time, probably not a battle you want to fight.
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Is that the contractors financial responsibility or the customers?

Devil's Advocate:

Did the snow fall on his property? What's the difference if it was a tree that fell across the driveway, preventing you from getting access?

In reality, if you don't write it in there ahead of time, probably not a battle you want to fight.
I agree certainly not worth a battle. Thank you for seeing this question for what it is. Some of these guys don't quite get it...
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Look at this as a lesson learned. Now you know going forward snow removal should be something clearly spelled out from the beginning.
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In my opinion it would be the owners responsibility to provide access to the site. Unless your in an area that gets a ton of snow on a normal basis how do you predict 44"?
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If this is not normal than bill for it. I'm assuming you are out east and not in Snowmass, Park City, telluride, etc.

If it had rained 12 " in a few days and washed out the driveway and flooded the basement would you pump out the basement and regrade the drive for free?
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When I was at Tahoe if you wanted or needed to work you moved the snow. Often times quite a fair amount.....
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now you move it then add a new line to your contract to cover it from here on out.
i think back to when i started on my own i had a 10 page contract at the best now have over 40 pages you have to live to learn
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Not in the contract = your responsibility.

I learned this 3 years ago. It killed me on a job.

Sorry for your circumstances. I've been there. It can really take it's toll.

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