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Old 07-02-2019, 10:46 AM   #1
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Smoke Damage.


Hi Folks.
We recently started a job restoring a finished basement after a fire.
We replaced the burnt wood, put up new drywall and replaced his melted plumbing and another crew painted everything. They sprayed the entire celing, ducts, pex, drains everything.
There is still a very strong smoke smell.
The fire happened months ago. I assume there's still smoke residue in all sorts nooks and inside the ducts.

Does anyone have any tips for getting rid of the smoke smell.

Someone reccomended to the homeowner to get an ozone machine. Has anyone used one of those for smoke damage?



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Old 07-02-2019, 01:07 PM   #2
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If it's all put back together and you smell smoke it likely needs to be demo'd again and done right.

Ozone is very corrosive and only the commercial machines put out enough to do any good.

Besides it's too late for ozone.

If you try ozone it will work for a day or two.

Getting rid of smoke odor is a VERY labor intensive process.

Did you replace the duct work and elec boxes?

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Correct sequence is stabilize, demo, clean, seal. Then rebuild.

I'm surprised nobody said anything about the smoke smell before putting it back together.
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BTW, smoke odor gets into concrete. It has to get cleaned so paint will stick, then get sealed up. If you don't do that, every summer when the ground warns up and humidity is up, it'll stink.

Ozone generators can't be used in occupied dwellings at all. It kills people, pets, plants, etc. There is also controversy over it degrading materials.

Contact a fire restoration company and see if they can do anything about the ducts. There are sealants fogged in for mold control, so maybe they have something for smoke.
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No joke, contact a fire restoration company. Some use a product that I recall as Fire Fog to reach inaccessible places. I've never seen it used, so I don't know how well it works.

Just to be obvious, I'd expect the restoration company to hose you, but it still may be cheaper and faster than tearing it out again.
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You replaced some wood - how about the rest, did it get sealed? Any charring still left? If so you are toast no matter what product you use

You can try a Hydroxul machine along with answering others questions above
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Thanks for the responses folks.

We were only contracted to rebuild and drywall the bedroom and bathroom walls and a wall going up the stairs in the basement. The bathroom wasn't burnt but it was poorly built and kinda falling apart so we rebuilt some of it. Someone else had already replaced the floor joists and subfloor that had gotten burnt. An electrician had replaced most of the electrical.
I did have to replace some pex that went through the bedroom headed upstairs just so we could drywall over it. Most of what we drywalled over was new wood none of it was burnt.

He called us again a few weeks later after it was painted to do some trim and hang a couple new doors. They spayed everything. They didn't tape alot off. He also had a duct cleaning service clean out his ducts. It still had a strong smoke smell.

There were floor joists that had some burn to them that didnt get replaced. They were primed with oil based Kilz and then painted. The burnt wood we tore out was what was left of the bedroom walls.

We did our job and he liked the work. He was easy to work for so I thought I'd ask for suggestions to pass along.

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I didn't think an ozone machine was a good idea either. I don't know much about them but it doesn't sound like the way to go.

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Sounds like the HO decided to be his own GC, and may soon learn the value of hiring a professional

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I think he is getting bad advice from someone. Whoever is telling him to get an ozone machine

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duct work needed to be replaced.

also all insulation.

all subfloors, below & above were replaced as needed.

after everything was barred down & mucked out, structural members were replaced.

then a very minty solution was used to wipe down all surfaces and done several times.

then the solution was left to vaporize in the interior for 2-3 days.

then ozone generator was used. a very useful tool.

if you still have smoke odor something was not demo'd correctly.

very difficult to fix now as all the new material will have absorbed the smoke odor.

cheap azz ho getting what he deserves trying to act as a gc.

after all surfaces were dry they were sprayed with an oil based white shellac.
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or
" excuse the smell , i`m just smoking some ribs ..."
or
" oh , thats my new air freshener..." burnt toast"

or ,
look at the guest , and sniff , and stand back and say " is that you ??'

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