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Old 12-05-2010, 09:34 AM   #21
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Timber Jockey iv'e never heard the phase 'Hang -N- Bangers ' but i will certainly be using it from now on,
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Old 12-05-2010, 09:35 AM   #22
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The Home Improvement explosion has been great for me. Let DIY network keep the population interested and spending money.
Everytime I walk into the Depot or Lowes and see all the home owners lined up....I see nothing but future work. We all know how difficult it is to do these projects. And, how much it really cost if you have to buy 3 boxes of nails...caulking...tools...paint/stain...supplies....and all the rest just to complete a small project. Look at the carts on Sat morning at the Depot, you can see what the project is and laugh when it rings up with all the Ryobi's. And I begin to think..."I could only imagine how this project is going to turn out".
I often thought I should hand out cards as they are tieing down 16'ers's to the roof of a crossover.

As far the shows on DIY, I dont even watch. Most of them are clueless hosts. We've all looked real closely and seen some of the hack-jobs in the back ground.
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Maybe she is hinting that more things need to to be done around the house?
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The Home Improvement explosion has been great for me. Let DIY network keep the population interested and spending money.
Everytime I walk into the Depot or Lowes and see all the home owners lined up....I see nothing but future work. We all know how difficult it is to do these projects. And, how much it really cost if you have to buy 3 boxes of nails...caulking...tools...paint/stain...supplies....and all the rest just to complete a small project. Look at the carts on Sat morning at the Depot, you can see what the project is and laugh when it rings up with all the Ryobi's. And I begin to think..."I could only imagine how this project is going to turn out".
I often thought I should hand out cards as they are tieing down 16'ers's to the roof of a crossover.

As far the shows on DIY, I dont even watch. Most of them are clueless hosts. We've all looked real closely and seen some of the hack-jobs in the back ground.
Agree-
Home Depot, you can do it, we can help... I really feel for you guys directly affected by this. However there should be work for the forceable future, fixing all the work Joe Homeowner has gotten his or her hands on.
Just think, there are countless home depot/lowes home renovations done over the last 10 years that will be up for redo in the next 5-20 years or sooner. Once houses start selling again, there should be a higher demand to fix or redo this stuff built over the boom period. And to compound the situation, the work being done now when times are tough by homeowners and fly-by-night contractors.
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real reno's is sometimes funny to watch, its documents the life of a gc and his jobs.

every once and a while there will be a episode where its back and forth between him and his foreman,,, each guy going on about who does more work and what not

althouhg not to long ago they were building a deck on h4h house and clearly showed them putting the ledger on and not flashing it.......great.... showing a pro screwing up
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Home Depot, you can do it, we can help... I really feel for you guys directly affected by this. However there should be work for the forceable future, fixing all the work Joe Homeowner has gotten his or her hands on.
Just think, there are countless home depot/lowes home renovations done over the last 10 years that will be up for redo in the next 5-20 years or sooner. Once houses start selling again, there should be a higher demand to fix or redo this stuff built over the boom period. And to compound the situation, the work being done now when times are tough by homeowners and fly-by-night contractors.

Good point about all the fly-by-nights and more homeowners tring it themselves.
I've had quite a few customers where they tried and realized how difficult a project becomes once they run into problems. The show renovation realities is my favorite, I've also had homeowners comment on the show as well and their own expirences.

Another thing to keep in mind....all those houses built in the past decade are beginnig to fall apart. The old way was "sell it"...now its "call someone"
Im busy with work, projects are getting bigger which means the economy is getting slowly stronger. People also held off on projects in the past 4 yrs.
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Here in Ontario, Canada, we have a T.V. network dedicated to D.I.Y.'ers. Strangely enough, it's called the D.I.Y. network!! We also have quite a few syndicated shows, like Holmes on Homes, Debbie Travis, etc. The one I really miss, is New Yankee Workshop! But then, I KNOW I'm not alone on that one.

How many of you have had to go to Home Depot on a Saturday morning, for supplies or materials? Need I say more? Even the Contractor's Desk is crammed with band aid wearing weekend wanna-be's donning their favorite dirty work hat, that is advertising a beer brand, a pair of Nikes they wear when gardening, blue jeans worn through college hazing 20 years ago, and a football or hockey jersey for a team they liked in high school, but they have long since changed to another team! All of these Hang -N- Bangers are all hepped up and ready to ply what they think they know to their homes!!

All I want, is a few sheets of plywood, or something that is needed RIGHT NOW!! As I walk through the store, I also notice the product lines have changed. Some really great contractor products are gone, and replaced with some generic, low cost, " almost as good" products. All in the name of serving the D.I.Y. market, that has seen a HUGE growth over the past 10 years.

Why is this, you ask? T.V.! An idea that was started by the likes of Bob Villa, and his ilk, has blossomed and grown into this hideous monstrosity North Americans watch every day, all day.

The result is a double edged sword. WE, as contractors get called upon to try and repair the mess these weekend warriors have made. The reason costs go up, is because we generally have to tear out everything they did, in order top do it right! That is the good and bad of it. We get the work, but the home owner pays the price.

Come on Home Depot...market to the masses, but offer the right materials, tools, and supplies. Stop cutting quality to satisfy your bottom line. Keep the contractor's counter for contractors! Time is money, and OUR bottom line suffers enough, without having to wade through throngs of folks with NO idea of what they are about to get into!!


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There is one show on the DIY network that walks you through the process of hiring a contractor. The problem with the show is that at the end of the project they throw out some numbers on job cost. This number is so low, they must be basing it off their material cost only. I am sure this show causes a lot of homeowners call for estimates on projects they cannot afford.
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Rough Crowd!

The basic problem is no one does anything anymore. They sit in front of a computer and shuffle paper around then go home at night.

If you actually took the time to talk to the these types of people who get in your way, you'd find out they are starving to do something with their hands.

I've been told by alot of people that it must be nice to see something from start to finish. Because 90% of the people out there really don't know or see a start and end point with what they are doing all day long at work.

Suck it up guys. These people are just looking for alittle satisfaction in their lives.

If they get in your way at home depot or lowes maybe you should try using real supply houses. Paying the mark up for that customer/salesman relationship that your missing out on. The people who run supply houses charge more because your paying for the knowledge and service that doesn't exist at the big box stores.
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We just finished the most insane HO, I've ever met. Besides constantly telling me what needed to be done and how it should be installed, only to be installed my way" the right way anyway". I finally had to call the GC and tell him to get his ass over to the house and deal with these people. Every step I would take, I would get the why are you doing that, which holds the job up.

One of the last things I did, the HO asks that I hold up installing some of the trim pieces, because he's still trying to figure it out. I said dude i'm leaving in 5 minutes, take it apart after I leave for all I care.
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I'm not sure which is sadder, the manager, or a contractor that needs the likes of HD to completely break down the materials they buy there.

I buy sheetgoods full size & break them down myself. As for the trim that needed to be shortened from 16' to 8', all the HD's I've been in, have a cart in the trim isle with a handsaw laying right there for the homeowner to break it down themselves.
I'm not sure which is sadder, going to HD or buying MDF.
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I once saw a DIY show, show about 5 people re-do a whole house inside and out in about 24 hours, believe it or not. It looked amazing, but you know it was all camera I bet.
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The next HO who accidentally posts on CT should get a visit from a local contractor that posts here. It should be filmed, and it should be our pilot episode.
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The Home Depots in my area arnt bad at all. You need to know going in that no one is going to be useful. Its like lowered expectations lol. I start by thinking everyone there is a moron and if a guy can atleast direct me to a product that they sell well hey I'm in business.

The sad part is how often people leave there with just bad information. And any self respecting contractor would not be going to the "contractors desk" for help, at least not contracting advice. The only time I go there is when I need someone to find a product for me.

When ever a new big box store or any hardware store in my area opens up I will go there walk up and down ever single aisle. Just so that I become familiar enough with the items that the next time im in a rush for something I dont have to stop and wait.

As for the DIY shows they arnt all bad. I agree that most are and I am always skeptical of just how much the HOs are doing compared to the professionals. But hell even the professionals are cutting there hands off lol. (I think it was some dude from extreme makeover house edition)

Real Renos is the only show that is closest to the "real world" of a contractor and even it I feel lacks focus. I watch that show when its on But I feel like there is no substance in it.

I want to watch a show that is the flipside of Holmes on homes. Show the DIYers and HOs the pitfalls that contractors get into. show the situations were contractors get fooked. GCs not getting paid for services rendered, having to make compromise because HO either cant or wont pay for the better product. You should never skimp on safety issues, but we've all been in that situation "good? no good enough"
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Hands down the funniest show is Renovation Realities . That is what really happens when most HO think they Know what they are doing. I saw one with an architect that said " I draw these all the time how hard can it be " funny stuff , i would love to be the camera crew and see them struggle. Hire a damn pro !!!
GAAAHHH!! I caught one the other night where some idiot finds a gas line, has no idea if its pressurized or not, can't trace it down, and decides to go at it with a sawzall while claiming "What's the worst that could happen? I could blow up..."

Yeah. You can blow up, the crew filming you could blow up, your girlfriend could blow up, and the poor fire fighters who have to come put out your house could get hurt in the process. You killing yourself? Good on you. Less idiot chromosomes in the gene pool. You killing or hurting someone else because you are an idiot... Not good.
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After reading through all these comments (rants), all I can say is yes, ditto, fo-sho, got it and amen and here I thought I was alone
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