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Old 06-04-2009, 05:44 PM   #21
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Dude, what are you doing messing with windows? You are a door fitter. They need to hire a licensed window opener for that job. Damn flyby night hacks stealing other trades work.
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Yeah, and you are a painter!!

who are these people steppin all over other peoples trades. dispicable!
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:06 PM   #22
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Yup, wire and install the fan, cut-in and install the switch...


Tree fiddy.

I make and hang my own cabinets to save money.
I know a guy that will do it for tufiddy
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I refuse to install ceiling fans w/ a given price. I have an hourly rate and stick by it. Way too many variables to consider especially when the homeowner went down to the local surplus center to purchase the damn thing.
congrats on publicly proclaiming your incompetence....
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Dude, what are you doing messing with windows? You are a door fitter. They need to hire a licensed window opener for that job. Damn flyby night hacks stealing other trades work.
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What are you!? the Inspector! get the F'outta here! I'm closer to the trade than you are! it's my $50 bucks!

Go back to the Craig's list and get your own lead!!!
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It's not worth $50 just to assemble the fan, let alone install the box and actually install the fan.

What did someone else do assembling the fan that caused you to hit your head?

Did a blade fly off and hit you in the head?
The hanging rod wasn't secured properly, as you stop start etc.. kept loosing the the fan/motor from the hanging rod. It was noticible something was wrong, got under the fan on my ladder and the fan just fell from the ceiling.
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Wow, I thought this was a lame post, you guys surprised the heck out of me.

I had no idea there were so many professional ceiling fan installers here.

I should have asked my friend for a few more details. like how much did you pay for the fan $500?
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Wow, I thought this was a lame post, you guys surprised the heck out of me.

I had no idea there were so many professional ceiling fan installers here.

I should have asked my friend for a few more details. like how much did you pay for the fan $500?

HAAAAA please don't ad me to hat list, how embarressing to be a professional ceiling fan installer.
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HAAAAA please don't ad me to hat list, how embarressing to be a professional ceiling fan installer.


We hang several hundred a year and each one is done professionally.

But none for $50.
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Wow, I thought this was a lame post, you guys surprised the heck out of me.

I had no idea there were so many professional ceiling fan installers here.
Would you rather a "pro" or some bozo who's fan install is going to bonk someone on the head?



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I should have asked my friend for a few more details. like how much did you pay for the fan $500?

While your at it...ask him if he has a clue?
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...I don't know how it is in other states but in NJ you have to be a licensed electrician and take the permit out to change existing fixture to a fan.
Really...that's news to me.

I show my hand first - then you can show yours....deal?

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5:23-2.7 Ordinary maintenance
(a) Ordinary maintenance to structures may be made without filing a permit application with or giving notice to the construction official.
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3. Ordinary electrical maintenance shall include:
i. The replacement of any receptacle, switch, or lighting fixture rated at 20 amps or less and operating at less than 150 volts to ground with a like or similar item, including receptacles in locations where ground-fault circuit interrupter protection is required;
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I was talking with a friends today. He told me that he has installed close to fifty ceiling fans in house that he has bought and flipped or still owns. He suggested that the average cost for hiring a fan company to install one is about $50. That's a lot of money saved over many years.

Do you install your own ceiling fans?
Of course I install my own ceiling fans. I installed my own 200 amp service and some 100 amp subpanels. I do all the wiring.

I hang my own cabinets too. Anyone with a cordless drill, drill bit, screwdriver bit and level can hang a cabinet. It's a LOT easier than hanging a ceiling fan. If someone had me do some electrical work on their house I'd probably hang their cabinet for free while I was there.
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I hang my own cabinets too. Anyone with a cordless drill, drill bit, screwdriver bit and level can hang a cabinet. It's a LOT easier than hanging a ceiling fan. If someone had me do some electrical work on their house I'd probably hang their cabinet for free while I was there.

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If you have a fan and you replacing with another fan, then that falls under Ordinary Maintenance & Minor Work... If you have a light fixture and you want to change that to a fan, you have to file for a permit.


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Really...that's news to me.

I show my hand first - then you can show yours....deal?

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If you have a fan and you replacing with another fan, then that falls under Ordinary Maintenance & Minor Work... If you have a light fixture and you want to change that to a fan, you have to file for a permit.

I need more than that.

According to the document I posted:
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The replacement of any receptacle, switch, or lighting fixture rated at 20 amps or less and operating at less than 150 volts to ground with a like or similar item...
...falls under OM&MW.

When I am pulling permits for new electrical installs, CFs are counted as regular lighting fixtures - not motors or anything else "fancy...aka CFs are "similar".

Can you post something that states "CF installs require a permit/lic. EC"?
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In the same code that you posted 3. Ordinary electrical maintenance shall include:
i. The replacement of any receptacle, switch, or lighting fixture rated at 20 amps or less and operating at less than 150 volts to ground with a like or similar item, including receptacles in locations where ground-fault circuit interrupter protection is required;( now even this last wording was updated, ground-fault circuit interrupter must be replaced by a licensed electrician and inspected)
The interpretation of this code states anything other then same or alike fixture like a fan, you must file for permit. Because a fan must have a fan box and it can not be attached to a regular light box because of vibration.
In addition, if a home in NJ is going for sale, when they have an inspection from the town and they see a fan, you must provide the township with a letter sealed by a licensed electrician, that he checked the box and it meets the code, if not you must file for a permit, put the fan box and have an inspection, or you can take the fan down and hang a regular light fixture.


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I need more than that.

According to the document I posted:
...falls under OM&MW.

When I am pulling permits for new electrical installs, CFs are counted as regular lighting fixtures - not motors or anything else "fancy...aka CFs are "similar".

Can you post something that states "CF installs require a permit/lic. EC"?
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In addition, if a home in NJ is going for sale, when they have an inspection from the town and they see a fan, you must provide the township with a letter sealed by a licensed electrician, that he checked the box and it meets the code, if not you must file for a permit, put the fan box and have an inspection, or you can take the fan down and hang a regular light fixture.
Huh???? Where'd you get that tidbit from?? I sold two houses in NJ- one in 2006 and one in 2007- both had ceiling fans (which I installed myself, btw), and neither needed a letter from an electrician to certify anything.

Of course, nothing would surprise me in the nanny-state of NJ- you need a permit from the DEP to wipe your own ass. If this requirement is for real, maybe HD, Lowes, etc., should stop selling fan boxes, or require that you show your electrical license to purchase one. Maybe they can make it like a handgun permit- you have to file an application, submit to a background check, provide personal character references, and wait 6 months so they can determine whether you're capable of installing a ceiling fan.......

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Huh???? Where'd you get that tidbit from?? I sold two houses in NJ- one in 2006 and one in 2007- both had ceiling fans (which I installed myself, btw), and neither needed a letter from an electrician to certify anything.

Of course, nothing would surprise me in the nanny-state of NJ- you need a permit from the DEP to wipe your own ass. If this requirement is for real, maybe HD, Lowes, etc., should stop selling fan boxes, or require that you show your electrical license to purchase one. Maybe they can make it like a handgun permit- you have to file an application, submit to a background check, provide personal character references, and wait 6 months so they can determine whether you're capable of installing a ceiling fan.......
listen you georgia redneck, up here in civilized land, we like our myths and rumors to not be debunked....so be quiet
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listen you georgia redneck, up here in civilized land, we like our myths and rumors to not be debunked....so be quiet
Are you stalking me? Does a little red light on your computer come on every time I post? lol

If you're calling NJ "civilized", I'll stay down here with the cavemen, thank you very much......
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Are you stalking me? Does a little red light on your computer come on every time I post? lol

If you're calling NJ "civilized", I'll stay down here with the cavemen, thank you very much......
just trying to be your apprentice

nah, purely dumb luck...my son got me up early and then stole my bed to watch TV...so I got nothing better to do for awhile

though I get an email alert from J F everytime you post...you might want to check that out

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