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Old 05-28-2019, 05:28 PM   #21
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The ones you mentioned like Stilz are simpler no pit, etc.

It's been about 25 years since I built a remodel shaft but back then I built about 20 of them( with another guy, he was the boss). We built a lot of them in churches and Legion type halls. Not as daunting as you might think. I doubt codes have changed a lot. We were working with the winding drum type(cable and motor in separate mechanical room). Double 5/8" type X on the shaft. A double (LVL) for the rail to lag to. Knocked down drywall frames for the doors. You prob need a 4' x '5' area. Dig out the pit, form up and pour foundation/pit, frame up under the floor joists, cut out the floor joists, move to next floor. Hang drywall and install doors. 2 stories and a basement is pretty easy. Now I think they offer systems with an overhead motor so no need for a mechanical room. You could always build the shaft then hang some floors in it and make it a closet for when you're ready or to break up the cost.(I think the closet idea was suggested by a member already) Prob be a good selling point for the house. We used to use a plumb bob. They would be perfectly plumb over 5 stories.

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The last one we did was a closet for several years, but just recently he went full blown elevator. The pit always likes to wick water. We started using red guard in them, and that solved the moisture problem. A laser is the way to go for plumb on these, but a plumb bob works also.
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Old 05-28-2019, 05:42 PM   #22
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The last one we did was a closet for several years, but just recently he went full blown elevator. The pit always likes to wick water. We started using red guard in them, and that solved the moisture problem. A laser is the way to go for plumb on these, but a plumb bob works also.
I obviously agree about the laser! Good idea about red guard.

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I was in the forklift business for years and stayed in it a bit once I went to residential construction. I used to scrap 20 to 30 orderpickers a year basically on a pennies per pound basis and always thought that with some modifications they would make a perfect elevator base. For $1000, you get a platform and hydraulics that will go from ground level up to 18 feet or more. I hated scrapping all those perfectly good mechanicals.

I know it's not what you're looking for, but someone smarter than me should start a business repurposing old machines for residential elevators.
Yup, gotta agree with that, and they're available for a whole lot less than a grand around here.
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We have a 3 stop in our building. Electric drum and cable system. The car is about 4' x 6' x 8'. Inclinator brand. 18 years now. Very few problems. 20k. Probably 25k now.
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We have a 3 stop in our building. Electric drum and cable system. The car is about 4' x 6' x 8'. Inclinator brand. 18 years now. Very few problems. 20k. Probably 25k now.
That's the brand we did the shafts for. Not to much to them. Install the rail, the platform , there's is a good amount of LV wiring done by the installers, then bolt the Cab together. 2 guys will install it in 3 days. Over the years I have recommended to a few Builders/HO in big remodels and NC to at least build the shaft but most have not done it. I think every one involves thinks it's too much effort, too many codes, etc. It's really not. Cost of materials for the shaft are not much either. Electrician has to bring 220 w/disconnect to the motor and a 20 amp line. If you get the shaft done at a reasonable cost it would probably be a good investment when you go to sell the house. Depends on your area. Where I live land is expensive, not too many existing large Ranches and zero(as in not one) new Ranches being built that I know of.

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Sadly I think most Americans deny they will ever need an elevator, till they do...

Thus homes with elevators are perversely underpriced......

Free Markets aren't uber smart.....individually.
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Sadly I think most Americans deny they will ever need an elevator, till they do...

Thus homes with elevators are perversely underpriced......

Free Markets aren't uber smart.....individually.
I know plenty over the years that became limited, and none of them NEEDED an elevator. Most common was just making the 1st floor accessible and moving a bedroom to the first floor.

Making a bath that works for someone in a wheelchair can be the biggest issue.
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Many of my customers have stair lifts. The newer ones are really nice and can go on curved stairs and around corners. I just come in to modify bathrooms.
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Hdavis: No One needs a wheel chair, let them rot in bed, like a Dickens' Story....

If I earned the Money, I'm building an elevator to max out my freedom/privacy...

Some heirs wouldn't be allowed near me without a unrelated person present......

I am hoping the free market returns to Health Care and research, more cures and less treatments that NEVER end.....
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My pop just had a Acorn stair lift installed loves it, now the crazy part he does not own it, it's a rental forgot the numbers he paid the first six months then after it just becomes a monthly bill.

the guy installed the lift in less than 1 hour, straight stair no turns.

This is in the UK

I think a popular choice for home elevators are the vacuum type the
guy i use for wheel chair lifts etc tells me he installs s boat load of the vacuum type

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