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Old 05-02-2019, 10:36 AM   #21
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Well?...


That was odd.

So she insisted on having a copy of my liability insurance and workers compensation insurance.

Which I sent to her as I wrote in my last post, then the calls and emails from her stopped dead.

And I've never heard off her since and that was a week ago.

Is she using my info to give to the building management and then getting fred the local alcoholic $10 an hour guy to do the painting for her????

I don't know, but the whole thing was weird from the 1st call off her to the last one a week ago.
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Old 05-02-2019, 06:11 PM   #22
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Yeah, we all suspected it. Listen to one's gut. Everybody's been there (some repeatedly).
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Is she using my info to give to the building management and then getting fred the local alcoholic $10 an hour guy to do the painting for her????

$10 says this is what her game plan.

Landlord has concern with liability. If the paint job isn’t good enough, they will keep some or all of her deposit. If the paint job is good enough, they will claim it isn’t and keep some or all of her deposit.

I would contact the Landlord/Owner, as a curtesy call, tell them that provided a verbal quote, and insurance info to her, and haven’t heard back from her, and that you weren’t going to do the work. Just wanted to let them know in case they needed to contact you with regards to your insurance and workers comp.
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Not sure if I should do this job.

a women called me, wanted a quote to paint her apartment. On the phone she had kind of a strange voice, like she smoked 40 smokes a day. Not a red flag in itself but had me wondering.

Then she called and said she had the flu and would call again once better, which she did.

When I got to her place, it's an area I've worked a lot. Middle class, and nice places.

She came down to let me in and sort of looked like her voice sounded. Something was bit off. Then we went into her place, man it was like a bit odd looking.

Mostly empty and some boxes looked like half way through packing. But what stuff wasn't packed looked a bit like a crack house.

In the bedroom 2 old mattress on the floor/no bed frame. Place looked like it hadn't been painted for 30 years, run down and grotty.

She said it was because she'd been busy raising kids in there and better to just let them 'do their thing' than to try stop them. Then she said she'd already 'washed the walls twice' and that should save a lot of the labour??

She asked me if I took the light fixtures off the ceiling when I painted the ceilings, said she'd heard most painters are 'lazy' and don't take the fixtures off and 'just paint around them'.

I left and she let it be known that the building management would have to see my insurance x 2. Liability and workers compensation, which is no problem.

I sent her a price over and she sounded like she was shopping around, no problem there, but just how much I wondered?

Didn't hear off her for a while and she emailed and said kids had had the flu.

Then another saying some other reason for a delay.

The she got back to me and wanted to 'confirm what the price was for'.. and she'd added some small things. Then later on she's added painting inside the kitchen cabinets which clearly were not included and were excluded. Then she added a line that said 'fix all holes in grout in corner of bathroom and tiles' I asked her what was that about, and that we could take a look before we get started... she insisted it's just minor stuff?

Then she asked me to send her an updated copy of my liability insurance as I'd sent her a copy that had expired, which was totally understandable.

But then 10 minutes later I got a call from my insurance broker saying a women had called her up asking if I was insured and if it was OK to disclose my info to her??? It seemed underhanded as in the call me and her had 10 minutes earlier I'd said it's no problem and I'd send it over.

Then yesterday she was buying the materials from Home Depot, I got 4 phone calls off her in 10 minutes about what to buy. I kind of get that, but along with everything else?...

Then today I was busy and just checked my email this evening, 2 emails off her. One asking me if I was available to go to the apartment today at 1pm to go over everything and 'her partner wants to meet' me to go over everything as I haven't seen the place in a while.

All this for 3 days work. And I haven't even started working yet!

My thing is nowadays I can't do with the stress from headache jobs. I'm heading for 60 years old and done with the batty customers.

What do you think?
I am surprised that you wrote all this. If you are 60-years old you should be used to dealing with these type of people. Sometimes, I feel like this type of customer is making you jump through all those hoops like a circus dog because she is looking for someone she feels comfortable she can screw at the end. Although, some of the customers who were the worst in the beginning turned out to be the best because they really did want to get all the details upfront and they wanted to line up their ducks in a nice straight row.

I would not waste a lot of time with this customer. Depends on how much work you have, how much profit on the job and how much time the job will take. You don't want to lose other work and you don't want to step on dollars to pick up nickels.
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Years ago, I did 22 emails with a potential and didn't get the job. Lesson learned.
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At 60 yo you should know better already. Tell you took on some big job and won't be able to fit her in your schedule. Remember her number so if you ever see it on your phone, don't answer it.
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I name those clients 'Don't Anwser'
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At 60 yo you should know better already. Tell you took on some big job and won't be able to fit her in your schedule. Remember her number so if you ever see it on your phone, don't answer it.

I didn't take the job and titled my post 'Red flags from potential client' I'm curious as to which part you think I should know better about?
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Dave.... is this Vancouver Canada? I just got back from there yesterday and I saw quite a few crack heads!

I agree with the earlier post about working with the management company and not the tenant.
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Dave.... is this Vancouver Canada? I just got back from there yesterday and I saw quite a few crack heads!

I agree with the earlier post about working with the management company and not the tenant.

Hi Eric, yes Vancouver BC.

There's a big problem here with crack and other drugs.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/43-overdoses-i...ters-1.4352500

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