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Old 05-13-2007, 01:16 PM   #1
 
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Putting In A Coberstone Patilo


I have a 25' X 25' patilo that I want to replace with a Coberstone brick and would like to know how mant brick it would take, useing the big or the small size? Which is better to use?

Also I would like to know how deep one should go with the graveal and sand?
I would like to know what a project like this would cost if I would let someone do it or what it would cost if I'd do it?

Frist off I would have to take out the concreate for it is cracked and stickes up.

I am open for suggustionon how and what would be best to do this project.
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Old 05-13-2007, 04:13 PM   #2
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What's a Coberstone Patilo

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Go to a good landscape/hardscape supplier to pick out a pattern and color you want. They will figure our how man stones to order and how much edge restraint you will need for the edges.

Get a contractor to tear out the old concrete and get rid of it. You paver supplier can give you the names of good contractors.

You will also probably need 4" - 6" of compacted base and a 1" sand setting bed. After you set the pavers, you should sprinkle masonry sand on the surface and vibrate the sand between the joints and level the pavers.
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Call a professional contractor and get an estimate. Cobberstone is pretty hard to come by. I have never even heard of it.
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Could that possibly be.....cobblestone?
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Steve, it has 2 b's....as found on google

Lindenhof as oldest park of the city isn't as spectacular as one might think but the view is fantastic. Being lucky, you can see the Alps in the distance behind Grossmuenster. The way up the place is quite nice to, again with some cobberstone streets and well-restored buildings. With crossing the Limmat and getting closer to Bahnhofsstrasse, you'll know more and more why Zuerich's way up the list of the most expensive places in the world.
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Man, I ain't never mispeling anythig in this furom agaen. Yuo guies ar bruttel.
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Man, I ain't never mispeling anythig in this furom agaen. Yuo guies ar bruttel.
Boy, you ain't kidden. I think I'll jist stick to reeden my ruller. Im a billder, not a rockit sinetiss.

Maybe I shood try hooked on fonnix...
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...how mant brick it would take...
Judging from the size it'll take a lot of them, and then you'll probably have to go back for more.

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...useing the big or the small size? Which is better to use?...
Use the smaller ones so you don't overload your truck.

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...Also I would like to know how deep one should go with the graveal and sand?...
I use three inches, but I tell the old lady that it's six.

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...I would like to know what a project like this would cost if I would let someone do it or what it would cost if I'd do it?...
Do it yourself, a contractor would probably charge you an arm and a leg.

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...Frist off I would have to take out the concreate for it is cracked and stickes up...
Rent a jackhammer, for it is the easiest way.

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...I am open for suggustionon how and what would be best to do this project...
Swear a lot, and hide your cigarette butts and beer cans in the rose bushes.

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Steve, it has 2 b's....as found on google

Lindenhof as oldest park of the city isn't as spectacular as one might think but the view is fantastic. Being lucky, you can see the Alps in the distance behind Grossmuenster. The way up the place is quite nice to, again with some cobberstone streets and well-restored buildings. With crossing the Limmat and getting closer to Bahnhofsstrasse, you'll know more and more why Zuerich's way up the list of the most expensive places in the world.
Douggie, unlless I am makking a bigg misteak, I seee thaatt I havve puttt 2 bb's in Cobblestone.
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You guys are a lot of help...but your posts are cracking me up. ConcreteMasonry gave the only real answer and he is dead on.
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THE FUN IS OVER FOR NOW

i HAVE ASK IF ANYONE EVER PUT IN A COBBLESTONE (DUTCH) PATIO AND i WAS HOPEING THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME BRIGHT PERSON ON HERE THAT HAD PUT ONE IN, I AM SORRY THAT i EVEN ASK THIS QUESTION.

HOPEFULY THERE IS A BRIGHT PERSON ON HERE THAT HAS PUT ONE IN?
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HOPEFULY THERE IS A BRIGHT PERSON ON HERE THAT HAS PUT ONE IN?
Over the years, I've tended to specialize in BRIGHT, but I've never put one in.
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THE FUN IS OVER FOR NOW

i HAVE ASK IF ANYONE EVER PUT IN A COBBLESTONE (DUTCH) PATIO AND i WAS HOPEING THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME BRIGHT PERSON ON HERE THAT HAD PUT ONE IN, I AM SORRY THAT i EVEN ASK THIS QUESTION.

HOPEFULY THERE IS A BRIGHT PERSON ON HERE THAT HAS PUT ONE IN?
concretemasonry gave you a great reply which answered your difficult to read questions.
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[QUOTE=SHORTGUN;240453]THE FUN IS OVER FOR NOW

i HAVE ASK IF ANYONE EVER PUT IN A COBBLESTONE (DUTCH) PATIO AND i WAS HOPEING THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME BRIGHT PERSON ON HERE THAT HAD PUT ONE IN, I AM SORRY THAT i EVEN ASK THIS QUESTION.

HOPEFULY THERE IS A BRIGHT PERSON ON HERE THAT HAS PUT ONE IN?[/QUOTE]


If they are anything like cobblestone streets they are not comfortable to walk on. If you end up doing your project post some pictures and get some feedback from your client.

How would chairs and such sit properly on rounded stones?
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The termnology for "cobblestone" is not uniform everywhere.

Cobblestone pavers have more to do with the pattern and the rounded edges on the pavers. They are not perfectly flay with absolutely square corners. Some are tumbled to get an antique appearance since they are manufactured with a relatively flat top and a vibrated with a flat plat vibrator.

Due to the iregulatities, they are not normally used for heavy duty installations like streets and industrial areas because the strength developed by the interlock is not as great as the more regular units. They are completely adequate for patios, sidewalks and driveways.
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THE FUN IS OVER FOR NOW

i HAVE ASK IF ANYONE EVER PUT IN A COBBLESTONE (DUTCH) PATIO AND i WAS HOPEING THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME BRIGHT PERSON ON HERE THAT HAD PUT ONE IN, I AM SORRY THAT i EVEN ASK THIS QUESTION.

HOPEFULY THERE IS A BRIGHT PERSON ON HERE THAT HAS PUT ONE IN?
When I first saw the subject for this thread about a Coberstone Patilo, before I clicked on it to read the posts, I knew this one was going to get picked at. I tend to save my picking for those who have established themselves as fellow nitpickers, who dish it out and can take it. But that's just me. Consider it a right of passage. You're in the company of contractors, and you've just been initiated. Welcome to the club.

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