Pocket Door - General Discussion - Contractor Talk

Pocket Door

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-29-2012, 06:01 PM   #1
Pro
 
Diablo View's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Nor Cal
Posts: 120
Rewards Points: 75

Pocket Door


So I am talking to a door supplier who says he can change out the track for a pocket door without opening up the sheet rock.
He says he came up with a tool to do this and no he won't tell me what it is.
I usually leave existing track and just replace hardware if the track isn't jacked up.
Any ideas on how it can be done?

Last edited by Diablo View; 03-29-2012 at 06:04 PM.
Diablo View is offline  

Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

   

Advertisement

 

Old 03-29-2012, 06:03 PM   #2
Pro
 
katoman's Avatar
 
Trade: carpenter
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Kirkfield,Ontario, Canada
Posts: 6,102
Rewards Points: 2,000

Re: Pocket Door


A very long right angled screwdriver. With a light on it.

Advertisement

katoman is offline  
Old 03-29-2012, 06:04 PM   #3
Geometrist

 
Warren's Avatar
 
Trade: framing/remodeling
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 10,056
Rewards Points: 321

Re: Pocket Door


Crow bar?
Warren is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-29-2012, 06:15 PM   #4
Fire up the BBQ
 
griz's Avatar
 
Trade: GC
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: CA
Posts: 21,537
Rewards Points: 1,802

Re: Pocket Door


http://pocketdoorrepair.com/
__________________
SOME JOBS JUST AREN'T WORTH DOING:
griz is online now  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to griz For This Useful Post:
Hmbldr (03-29-2012), TNTRenovate (03-30-2012)
Old 03-29-2012, 06:19 PM   #5
Pro
 
Hmbldr's Avatar
 
Trade: Residential contractor
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Metrowest Boston
Posts: 184
Rewards Points: 150

Re: Pocket Door


Well, I guess this is really 2 questions... how to get the old one out, then how to attach the new one. Getting the old one out (without ruining the wall) would seem to remove what you can and then prying/ripping out the track (just the track) I would loom towards an upgraded new track, like Hafele, for the new install. Something that might work with only and ent mount install in side the wall, so it could be done with just along driver attachment. Hafele makes some nice hardware rated for very heavy door. Should work easily for a standard door.

As for the salesman not giving up his secret might just cost him the sale. Annoying
Hmbldr is offline  
Old 03-29-2012, 06:30 PM   #6
Pro
 
jb4211's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor ~ Property Maintenance
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Philadelphia, Pa
Posts: 5,855
Rewards Points: 2,306

Re: Pocket Door


It can't be done properly/correctly. As much as some things are a PITA, there just isn't a short cut to certain things.

Just my opinion. I've been wrong before.

But taking short-cuts usually results in regrets, followed by doing the repair the right way to correct the repeated failure.
__________________
Jon
jb4211 is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to jb4211 For This Useful Post:
olligator (03-30-2012)
Old 03-29-2012, 06:35 PM   #7
Pro
 
Gary H's Avatar
 
Trade: Framer
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Munger Michigan
Posts: 2,910
Rewards Points: 2,342

Re: Pocket Door


JLC mag had a story on how to do it without cutting the sheetrock. I will see if I can find it.
Gary H is offline  
Old 03-29-2012, 11:40 PM   #8
Pro
 
Diablo View's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Nor Cal
Posts: 120
Rewards Points: 75

Re: Pocket Door


Quote:
Originally Posted by jb4211 View Post
It can't be done properly/correctly. As much as some things are a PITA, there just isn't a short cut to certain things.

Just my opinion. I've been wrong before.

But taking short-cuts usually results in regrets, followed by doing the repair the right way to correct the repeated failure.
In my post I stated he has a tool to do this with.How is that a short cut?
Diablo View is offline  
Old 03-29-2012, 11:57 PM   #9
Goin' Down in Flames....
 
Seven-Delta-FortyOne's Avatar
 
Trade: Highwayman
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere Between Heaven And Hell
Posts: 3,804
Rewards Points: 2,062

Re: Pocket Door


Not that I can think of. It certainly can't be done on any the pocket doors I've installed. Assuming you are talking about removing the entire track assembly, and not just the hardware.
__________________
Get Off My Lawn.

"There are no big projects. There are only small machines". - R. G. LeTourneau
Seven-Delta-FortyOne is offline  
Old 03-30-2012, 05:22 AM   #10
Pro
 
jb4211's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor ~ Property Maintenance
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Philadelphia, Pa
Posts: 5,855
Rewards Points: 2,306

Re: Pocket Door


Quote:
Originally Posted by Diablo View View Post
In my post I stated he has a tool to do this with.How is that a short cut?
IMO, I used the term "short-cut" because I don't think it's possible to replace the track properly without exposing the track.

But, after considering what Kato suggested, it may be possible. Difficult, seems like a short-cut, but possible. However, I think you'd need a angled screw driver, light and camera.
__________________
Jon
jb4211 is offline  
Old 03-30-2012, 05:49 AM   #11
Pro
 
Hmbldr's Avatar
 
Trade: Residential contractor
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Metrowest Boston
Posts: 184
Rewards Points: 150

Re: Pocket Door


Quote:
Originally Posted by jb4211 View Post
IMO, I used the term "short-cut" because I don't think it's possible to replace the track properly without exposing the track.

But, after considering what Kato suggested, it may be possible. Difficult, seems like a short-cut, but possible. However, I think you'd need a angled screw driver, light and camera.
Along the lines of what I suggested and if you check out Griz' posted link, precisely that..... a tool to remove the screws and a new track that attaches to the wall in side the pocket.

I think we all take 'short cuts' in that we all use the best tools and adaptive methods to make our jobs easier and better. A router is not a 'short cut' to hand plane molding profils. It's just better and makes more sense and is 1000 faster. Power this and cordless that, shortcuts we take for granted. Using this pocket tool is a lot better and faster than having to rip out the wall and all the steps nad time to repair.

Yep, there's a tool for that.
Hmbldr is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Hmbldr For This Useful Post:
Diablo View (03-30-2012), TNTRenovate (03-30-2012)
Old 03-30-2012, 07:54 AM   #12
Pro
 
stp57's Avatar
 
Trade: carpenter/ handyman
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Conroe, TX
Posts: 1,705
Rewards Points: 1,000

Re: Pocket Door


If it is an old door with slotted screws, forget it.
Steve
stp57 is offline  
Old 03-30-2012, 08:25 AM   #13
Pro
 
mbobbish734's Avatar
 
Trade: Property Preservation & Remodeling
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: michigan
Posts: 662
Rewards Points: 500

Re: Pocket Door


Quote:
Originally Posted by stp57
If it is an old door with slotted screws, forget it.
Steve
Gotta love those slotted screws
mbobbish734 is offline  
Old 03-30-2012, 09:03 AM   #14
Pro
 
Gary H's Avatar
 
Trade: Framer
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Munger Michigan
Posts: 2,910
Rewards Points: 2,342

Re: Pocket Door


Slotted screw? Those must have been before my time.
Gary H is offline  
Old 03-30-2012, 09:12 AM   #15
Hair Splitter
 
TNTRenovate's Avatar
 
Trade: General
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Naperville, IL
Posts: 18,149
Rewards Points: 894

Re: Pocket Door


I hate slotted screws, but philips aren't much better. A screw that is designed to cam out is begging for disaster. That being said, I think that Griz's site looks like your best shot.

Good luck!
__________________
Tried & True on Facebook
Tried & True Website
Quote:
Originally Posted by CarpenterSFO View Post
You ask for your money frequently, and you collect it quickly, else you stop working immediately.
TNTRenovate is offline  
Old 03-30-2012, 04:30 PM   #16
Pro
 
cairnstone's Avatar
 
Trade: maintenance carpenter
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Burnaby BC
Posts: 150
Rewards Points: 167

Re: Pocket Door


I have done a couple by prying the old pressed steel track out using a prybar. The new thrack and hardware is from kristrack and it is heavier duty Aluminium. I an install all but the lasst screw. I use lagers screws than the original did and so far none have failed. Trick is a right angle drill andlong extensions and patience

Advertisement

cairnstone is offline  


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Entry Pocket Door stp57 Windows, Siding and Doors 41 01-04-2011 06:43 PM
Pseudo-Elliptical Pocket Door in Arch basswood Finish Carpentry 22 03-15-2010 08:20 AM
Glass Shower Pocket Door or Outside Mount Door AboveAndBeyond Remodeling 6 04-02-2009 11:05 AM
Door install hell - customer angry HellisLikeNewrk General Discussion 17 06-04-2008 09:40 AM
Common Patio Door Problems adriand Remodeling 1 01-14-2007 01:27 AM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
Drywall Talk is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At DrywallTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?