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Old 05-25-2019, 03:19 AM   #1
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One of my customers is selling their house and the buyers paid some inspector to come nitpick ever damn hair in the carpet..
This Cornhole takes a pic of the sidewall flashing and counter flashing and says "no step flashing present". Like really??? I'm looking right at it. Then he takes a pic of the valley from the top of the roof and says " no valley metal present"
Like how do you know ? Climb your scary ass down that 3 story 10/12 and get ya a better look!! Maybe there's no metal because we used ice and water or granulated rolled roofing? Have u ever tried to nail 15 feet of valleymetal down with one hand hanging from the ridge with the other while airplanes are flying by your head? Didn't think so! And really this particular valley is only about a 9/12.. it's easily walkable. Then out of 8500 SQ feet, 13 ridges 9,10,12 pitch slopes on 3 floors, he finds one scuff mark and says "shingles torn cracked or missing, damaged and needs replacement"

So I'm having to take every pic and comment and give my statement against it and I can't help but be a total jerkoff about it. I'm trying to sound professional but what do u say to someone who says all gutter drains should be connected to a downspout or drain directly into another gutter. On a 3 story! Ok. Yeah. He failed the gutters for draining on to the shingles below it when that section is guttered too. And I guess I'm supposed to run a downspout from the 2nd floordown the brick and 20 feet across the across the flat roof of the patio cover and then down the front of it? .... Because it's bad if the water from the 2nd floor shingles gets on the 1st floor shingles. Sometimes I start explaining things to them and I get pissed off and erase it and just right "REALLY??!"
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Old 05-25-2019, 04:35 AM   #2
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Just say no.

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Re-douche the douche by exposing the douche.

Tell him it's the only professional way to do it and if he has another way you'd like examples...
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....... Have u ever tried to nail 15 feet of valleymetal down with one hand hanging from the ridge with the other.....
Who's fault is it you can't properly stage a job?

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....... while airplanes are flying by your head?....
Seriously? Airplanes? Sorry, you lost me at this point.














Airplanes.
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Just write: “wrong, needs reinspection”.
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I'm pretty sure valley metal isn't required by roofing recommended best practices...
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Staple a shingle wrapper to your report so he can read the instructions.
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Old 05-25-2019, 08:39 AM   #8
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Metal valleys are that popular in Texas ? I see one house with a metal valley probably every 500 I look at. Plus direct piping a downspout from one gutter to another makes sense when itís only a few feet at the most.

We even try to match the shingle color when we do it but by no means is a direct pipe a standard practice, at least around here. This guy is obviously just looking to bust balls.


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The only time valley metal is used here is if there's a metal roof. Even then Ice and Water is underneath it.
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You sound like you're making excuses.

If the job was done right, you shouldn't sound like that. Hopefully the defensive attitude doesn't come out in your report.

And yea, I don't get the airplane thing. I'm pretty sure I can build at the same tome airplanes are doing their thing up there.

Home Inspectors are almost universally incompetent douche bags. If they had any verifiable skill, they would be using it.
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Home inspectors donít pass or fail.

They merely observe and report and make recommendations.

Just tell your customer what you did and why. Leave out the part about how hard it was, because that makes you look bad.

Donít be snarky, but remember home inspectors donít know everything. They generally know a lot more than home owners, many trade specialists, and some clowns who claim to be contractors.

Just because they checked a box that says no valley metal was present doesnít mean itís an indictment of your work. Itís nothing personal. Just metal was present or it wasnít.

The problem is when HOs think home inspectors are the final word on everything. Or when contractors take it personally. They arenít and you shouldnít.




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Seriously? Airplanes? Sorry, you lost me at this point.





























Airplanes.
You won't be laughing when your wires get all wrapped up in a engine. haha.

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You won't be laughing when your wires get all wrapped up in a engine. haha.

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I've done a few jobs that were close enough to the airport to require flashing red lights.

And I still never had airplanes buzzing by my head. Even when on the roof.


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All very good ideas! And made me laugh.

So ok the airplanes flying by my head was an exaggeration.

I'm going to read these all one more time and then go finish my report. Y'all made me laugh but also made some good points and suggestions. Thanks... That's why I love you guys!

The homeowner just text me and told me I could start the repairs next week. Lol.
Yeah ummm...
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For a fee, you could set a pole and run the second floor downspout to it and down to the ground? Might need a big cross arm at the top, who knows. It could be the perfect technical solution to a non-problem.
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All very good ideas! And made me laugh.

So ok the airplanes flying by my head was an exaggeration.

I'm going to read these all one more time and then go finish my report. Y'all made me laugh but also made some good points and suggestions. Thanks... That's why I love you guys!

The homeowner just text me and told me I could start the repairs next week. Lol.
Yeah ummm...
Aren't you also a PA?
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Yes.
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Yes.
Sounds like an advantage to me from both angles...
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This doesn't leak, but they want me to flash it. This is the top section of the highest patio cover in the middle of the patio. The house has a Gable end overhang from the center of the window that is literally just out of view. The high point of the gable is less than 5 feet over the patio cover and the gable terminates at the edge on each side so it's literally 1 foot above this rake on each side. Plus the patio cover has a one inch slope. And there's windows below it thats why we had to put it there. But if I HAVE to flash it, how exactly would I do that around the window?

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