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Old 08-10-2015, 02:50 PM   #1
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Novice Question - Hardwood Flooring And Exterior Threshold


I'm not a flooring expert so hired a contractor put down hardwood floors. They put the front and back door thresholds ON TOP of the hardwood. The hardwood flooring is already on top of plywood so that's about 2" higher than the tile was. The threshold sitting on top adds almost another 2". From the outside of the house (front and back doors) there's a huge gap under the threshold that they just filled with concrete.

My personal opinion is that it's already a tripping hazard, and I think the concrete is going to look bad. The first impression of a potential buyer is going to be "patchwork" at the front door, not the new hardwood flooring inside...

I've attached 3 pictures of the work that was done. Two are of the back door (in daylight). In one, you can see the height of the threshold is pretty drastic, and that's on top of the raised hardwood which is on top of plywood. In the other, you can see where they put concrete under the outside and used masking tape and plywood to hold it under there until it dries. The third picture is from the inside of the front door. The front door is open - the white is the screen door. You can see the height of that threshold is almost as high as the closer on the screen door!

Can anyone tell me how this is supposed to be done? I would assume the hardwood flooring would but up against the threshold, or at least use a threshold with a small lip over the hardwood flooring. This is a tripping hazard in my opinion.

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Old 08-10-2015, 03:59 PM   #2
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Re: Novice Question - Hardwood Flooring And Exterior Threshold


If you live in a snow area, it's a nice thing to have. Setting on top of the hardwood give more clearance for a welcome mat too.

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That concrete is a mess though
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Re: Novice Question - Hardwood Flooring And Exterior Threshold


Looks like fidos arse. My guess would be where were you when it was being done. Concrete will crack to boot. Toe catcher for sure. Inspection at sale?
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toe shot, toe shot.
What kind of hardwood is that?
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Re: Novice Question - Hardwood Flooring And Exterior Threshold


Hardwood flooring contractors work in the house, the concrete is outside. It looks like the door frame was moved? Or another ridiculous threshold monstrosity that covered the transition from the pebble finish to the door frame was removed.
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Re: Novice Question - Hardwood Flooring And Exterior Threshold


Around here, it looks right from the inside (welcome mat room, etc.) and would not be considered a trip hazard, esp. for doorways not protected from the weather. We are accustomed to stepping over those thresholds. But they could have masked the threshold before they did the sand mix or whatever it is.

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Looks like a pressure treated 2x ..I'd pull threshold , bevel and stain it at minimum.
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Re: Novice Question - Hardwood Flooring And Exterior Threshold


So, did the floor guys pull the door? Personally, on the inside, like others have mentioned, I like it how it is. But how and why did that lip of concrete get put there?
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Those pictures are worthless.
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Re: Novice Question - Hardwood Flooring And Exterior Threshold


I would agree about the door sitting on the subfloor. These modern prehung doors should have a 1 .25" aluminum threshold so you still have a 1/2" clearance for a throw rug after the floor thickness.
I would have cut it back,left a 1/4 for expansion then threw a piece of shoe mold or something to conceal the joint.
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Ain't never in my life seen a door threshold on top of flooring. When you build new construction and have to get a dry in inspection ie. House wrap, windows installed and taped and doors installed I have never had an inspector say Whoops, you didn't put your flooring under the threshold yet, ima gonna have to fail you for this...
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The only relevant number is what the local code says at the OP's dwelling.

ICC (International Construction Code) says 1-1/2" from top of egress threshold to finished floor. And I've been using that number since forever, so its been around since the CABO and BOCA codes.

Max step down is 7-3/4", min landing width 36".

Nothing ANYWHERE I have ever found that says what the max depth of the "threshold" itself can be - which seems odd - but whatever.

That grey thang on the outside - well, it's what the brick is laid on too, so I'd guess its been there awhile, and is part of the "threshold".

Everything else is a matter of aesthetics/opinion.

And no, I ain't hacking out and resetting a door assembly to accommodate someone's aesthetic sensibilities.

Well wait: Give me and extra thousand and we can talk about resetting the door assy.
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you don't set a door on the finish floor..period..
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This got posted in the wrong thread. Should have been posted to the wall of shame.
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Around here you will find many times the doors were set on a rip of 3/4 plywood under the door if hardwood was the flooring. Reason being clearance under the door.
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Re: Novice Question - Hardwood Flooring And Exterior Threshold


Im confused. They set the door on top of the flooring? Was the threshold attached to the door jamb or no? It should have been part of the door install and not a separate piece. Ideally, you set the door (with threshold attached) so that it sticks up by the finished floor enough to accommodate a mat etc. too close and the door won't clear the mat, too far and it almost becomes a step.
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I have a feeling this is another homeowner thread
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