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Old 08-12-2010, 08:46 AM   #41
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The only good thing so far? An initial bill for $10k was sent by the HOA, not to me, but to the owner. All my assets have been transfered out and so is my truck, so even if they sue me, they may win, but never collect.

So the good news is that instead of suing you, your customer is getting stuck with the bill for your screw up? If you had had insurance, this would never be an issue.

More good news, you're attempting to hide your assets! That's great, although now you're committing fraud.

You never got flamed here because you made a mistake, or because you are a HVAC guy trying to do a GC's job. You got flamed here because you're a scab with no insurance, and now you are trying to duck out of your responsibilities
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Old 08-12-2010, 08:52 AM   #42
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You never got flamed here because you made a mistake, or because you are a HVAC guy trying to do a GC's job. You got flamed here because you're a scab with no insurance, and now you are trying to duck out of your responsibilities

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Seeing as how I'm on my hoa board I know a darn sure lot about hoas and let me tell ya I can point my finger at you and make your life living hell
I don't know if this thread is so much about HOA's and CA's, as much as it the consequences of screwing up when you are flying under the radar as an un-insured scab.

But..... My father who negotiate for years with the largest Plumbers and Pipefitters local in the state, as well as traveling to Washington DC and Kansas City to negotiate with the President of the Boilermakers, told me that the most frustrating business situation he was ever in was as President of a five unit condo association. At least with Business Agents, local, state and national union representatives, when things become heated you are dealing with professionals. In associations you are dealing with amateurs, egos, fiefdoms and favorites
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It takes a real genius to go to a forum and post that you have transfered your assets to avoid paying.

Did you send them a link to this site and letter telling them not to bother with a lawsuit because you transfered everything to someone else's name?

Moral lesson: It is expensive being stupid.
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:47 AM   #45
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Stuff like this sucks.But the bottom line is somebody (or somebody's insurance company) has to pay.I don't think it is going to take Sherlock Holmes to figure out who that someone is.
Or at the very least his brother Mike. He'll make it right.
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:49 AM   #46
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It's ironic how I spoke w/ a few architects, a few GC's, and a Construction Defects attorney and the clearly say that pipe should have been covered w/ a kick plate, floor plate or whatever you call it.

Then on hear all i get is flamed. I'm not a GC and don't try to represent myself as a GC. This is obviously the wrong place to come to for support cuz everyone here isn't helping at all and putting me down like I;m screwed, no if's ands or buts.. The owner I work for I do handyman stuff for several of his properties, simple stuff. This project was supposed to be simple. The only good thing so far? An initial bill for $10k was sent by the HOA, not to me, but to the owner. All my assets have been transfered out and so is my truck, so even if they sue me, they may win, but never collect.

As someone correctly pointed out depending on the age of the building nail stoppers might not have even been around when it was built.

Remember,insurance is there to cover bad things that happen on your jobs.Due to negligence or accidents.Was this an accident or negligence?
At this point it doesn't really matter.The HOA is not responsible and should not have to pay for the damages.The HO hired YOU to do this job and I assume to do it without wreaking the joint.

As far as sighing a waiver of no insurance (if it is even binding) that is not a waiver of liability.You are still liable....Believe it or not in California as a GC I am not required by law to carry GL insurance.But that does not mean I am not liable if something goes wrong.

Bottom line...YOU where hired to do the job and YOU (or whoever YOU hired) ran a nail through a pipe that caused the damage.

If you where the HOA would would you sue?

And thinking like a lawyer they are going to ask "Did you check to see you where nailing into a stud or plate?Did you check to make sure there was not wire or pipes behind the wall?"I guarantee that the next time you are installing base you will make double sure that there are no pipes in the area.You are not going to be able to pin this on the plumber that was there before you....Sorry.

Thank God you didn't burn the place down.
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As far as sighing a waiver of no insurance (if it is even binding) that is not a waiver of liability.You are still liable.....
Good point!

But I'm afraid our dolt won't get it
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K, this has run it's course.

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