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Old 11-12-2012, 09:21 PM   #1
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Found a flier at the Building dept.
Basically it requires that when a contractor does any interior
remodeling he is responsible for all smoke and CO detectors.
Nothing can be done without making sure they are working
or installed before work starts.
I can see it now:
Sorry Mr,HO,before I can install your new crown molding we
have talk about getting everything else up to code.
WTF is next???
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:23 PM   #2
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We have been required to update smokes any time an interior remodeling permit has ben pulled for several years now. Usually not a huge deal but occasionally it adds a sizable change order.

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Found a flier at the Building dept.
Basically it requires that when a contractor does any interior
remodeling he is responsible for all smoke and CO detectors.
Nothing can be done without making sure they are working
or installed before work starts.
I can see it now:
Sorry Mr,HO,before I can install your new crown molding we
have talk about getting everything else up to code.
WTF is next???
Why would that be anything to do with us who the hell is thinking up all this stupid BS? I would love to punch the living **** out of them
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The more regulations the force on us, the harder it becomes to run a legitimate business. Same with the energy code stuff.
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We have been required to do that for many years also, except we have to even do it when we build a deck and we do nothing on the interior
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All about revenue....
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I know the reason for it:http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/28/ny...pagewanted=all

This was a terrible tragedy,but the idiot put ashes in a paper bag.
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We have been required to do that for many years also, except we have to even do it when we build a deck and we do nothing on the interior
I might have to go back and reread that flier.Could be for exterior work too.

The thing that bothers me is we are now given the responsibility for
protecting some HO's from their own stupidity.
If the house has the right detectors,why are we responsible for their
upkeep?
I could see if there weren't any,and having to install them,but this clearly
states that we have to check them every day when we leave the job.
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I might have to go back and reread that flier.Could be for exterior work too.

The thing that bothers me is we are now given the responsibility for
protecting some HO's from their own stupidity.
If the house has the right detectors,why are we responsible for their
upkeep?
I could see if there weren't any,and having to install them,but this clearly
states that we have to check them every day when we leave the job.
Was this for your locale or state wide? I haven't seen or heard anything about this yet.
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Was this for your locale or state wide? I haven't seen or heard anything about this yet.
Check with your local BI,but I'm pretty sure its state wide.
Just may be worded or interpreted differently.
The fliers were typed up locally.
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Well they got to blame someone when a house burns down due to HO being stupid. so what better than a contractor as the scape goat.
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Was this for your locale or state wide? I haven't seen or heard anything about this yet.
Here you go:http://www.cga.ct.gov/2012/ACT/PA/20...B-05394-PA.htm

If they aren't there,we have to supply them.
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Thanks. I've been trying to google it without any luck. So it only reuires that Smoke/CO units be provided on a temporary basis while the work is underway as opposed to actually installing units that stay after we leave. Added cost is minimal. Not as bad as I thought.
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Doesn't look horrible. Get a single battery operated smoke detector and CO detector and stick it in the property while the job is ongoing. Both are pretty cheap, the CO detector being the more expensive. You get to take them when you leave as it is a temporary condition.


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Substitute House Bill No. 5394

Public Act No. 12-184

AN ACT CONCERNING SMOKE AND CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTORS AND ALARMS IN RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Assembly convened:

Section 1. (NEW) (Effective October 1, 2012) Whenever any private residential dwelling designed to be occupied by one or two families is occupied during interior alterations or additions requiring a building permit, the temporary installation of battery-operated smoke detection and warning equipment and, if there is a fuel-burning appliance, fireplace or attached garage present, battery-operated carbon monoxide detection and warning equipment shall be required in the vicinity of, and during the performance of, such alterations or additions. Such equipment shall be of a type or technology that is tested and certified pursuant to standards issued by the American National Standards Institute or Underwriters Laboratories. Such equipment may combine smoke and carbon monoxide detection technology into a single device.

Sec. 2. (NEW) (Effective October 1, 2012) The Commissioner of Construction Services may establish, within available appropriations, a public awareness campaign to educate the public concerning the dangers of not having smoke and carbon monoxide detection and warning equipment in residential dwellings and to promote the installation of smoke and carbon monoxide detection and warning equipment in all residential dwellings.

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We have been required to do that for many years also, except we have to even do it when we build a deck and we do nothing on the interior
I ran into the same thing in Minnesota but only from one inspection department. The rest of the building officials I have worked with seem to realize that it is more than a little ridiculous, because there is no reason at all for me to be inside the HO's house.
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I ran into the same thing in Minnesota but only from one inspection department. The rest of the building officials I have worked with seem to realize that it is more than a little ridiculous, because there is no reason at all for me to be inside the HO's house.
Our detectors are permanent and have to be signed off at final. Depending on the percentage of remodel is what determines rather or not we have to hard wire them.
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Our detectors are permanent and have to be signed off at final. Depending on the percentage of remodel is what determines rather or not we have to hard wire them.

The inspector that made a stink about it; thankfully, let it slide because I had no way of getting into the house. I promised to pass the information on to the HO and I did.

Funny thing is that the law/rule went into effect 2-3 years ago, not a single one of the other 6 cities that I do work in has ever mentioned it. Those have all been deck jobs, so I may run into it as I get into remodels and basement finishing.
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The inspector that made a stink about it; thankfully, let it slide because I had no way of getting into the house. I promised to pass the information on to the HO and I did.

Funny thing is that the law/rule went into effect 2-3 years ago, not a single one of the other 6 cities that I do work in has ever mentioned it. Those have all been deck jobs, so I may run into it as I get into remodels and basement finishing.
I know what you mean, sometimes I forget and it catches me by surprise

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