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Old 07-08-2019, 10:09 PM   #1
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Hello, I have been working for someone a while now and they want me to have most of the bad parts of contract work along with all the bad of hourly, none of the good.
I have already checked the labor laws and technically he's good but it's just so messed up that we don't get paid until the job is finished. I've never worked for someone that mixes hourly and contract like this. Every hourly job i've ever had we got paid at the end of the week, or every 2 weeks, at least on a regular predictable schedule.
If it was normal contract work I could come in on my time, work long hours and get jobs done asap knock out a house a week, but b/c he wants me on his hourly time it's dragging out jobs way longer (month) than necessary (he only works 3-5 hours a day)
end result : I stay broke and stressed out. Any advice besides bail and jump ship?
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Old 07-08-2019, 10:13 PM   #2
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You should print that out and hand it to him.

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If you are not happy with your arrangement, negotiate for a new one or find another position.
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Hope he is using vaseline or some sorta lube....
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If hes making some of the work for flat rate, hes probably planning on giving you a 1099.


Nope out of there.


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Hello, I have been working for someone a while now and they want me to have most of the bad parts of contract work along with all the bad of hourly, none of the good.
I have already checked the labor laws and technically he's good but it's just so messed up that we don't get paid until the job is finished. I've never worked for someone that mixes hourly and contract like this. Every hourly job i've ever had we got paid at the end of the week, or every 2 weeks, at least on a regular predictable schedule.
If it was normal contract work I could come in on my time, work long hours and get jobs done asap knock out a house a week, but b/c he wants me on his hourly time it's dragging out jobs way longer (month) than necessary (he only works 3-5 hours a day)
end result : I stay broke and stressed out. Any advice besides bail and jump ship?
The fact that he needs to do this is a red flag... the risk you have is that if he falls into a rob Peter to pay Paul cycle, it could increase the time it takes to get paid, if at all... click for a case in point...

Is he withdrawing taxes from your pay? Are you an employee? Is he only letting you work 3-5 hours/day?

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My tax situation been messed up for awhile so no but that was a mutual choice, idk and he lets me put in 7 on a good day but i'd prefer to be putting in 12. He's fairly new at running a business and his financial situation is definitely why he pays this way. Kids these days, huh?

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Getting paid under the table benefits no one.

You are being taken advantage of.


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My tax situation been messed up for awhile so no but that was a mutual choice, idk and he lets me put in 7 on a good day but i'd prefer to be putting in 12. He's fairly new at running a business and his financial situation is definitely why he pays this way. Kids these days, huh?
If that's the way it is, and it doesn't look like it will change, that's not a long-term career situation.

Time to add long-term strategy to what you're doing. I'm assuming by your tax situation being screwed up, you haven't filed for a while. Without addressing that, you're going to find yourself dealing with this situation from employer to employer who know how to take advantage of that situation. Meet with an accountant, and discuss your situation openly (they deal with it all the time). Most don't charge much for a consultation, if at all, and there are tax strategies they are aware of that they can make work for situation. Sometimes, you can end up getting money back that you didn't know you could because of deductions.

BTW, he is not in compliance with the labor laws doing what he's doing nowadays. If he's not paying you on the books, likely you're not covered by Workmen's Comp, and should something happen to you on the jobsite, you can potentially be screwed.

If he tells you where to go, what time to work, and what to do and how to do it, you're an employee... period. With that comes specific obligations that are on him, including W/C, collecting and paying taxes, employer taxes, etc.

Finding another employer who operates legitimately is in your best interest if you're looking to avoid job-hopping and/or staying at the same income level to avoid taxes because they know they can take advantage of that (like those who hire illegals do)... in the meantime, think long-term and get your ducks in a row, meet with an accountant, and start building a career, instead of putting yourself in a position to be taken advantage of...
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Tell him you need 40 hours a week, a consistent paycheck...and more pay. Buy yourself the appropriate insurance, etc. and run your own business.

Otherwise, jump ship.
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So he wants to pay you like a sub but treat you like an employee.

My guess is he will use you and abuse you until you quit.

You have to ask yourself do you want to be a sub and take the responsibility that comes with being one or do you want to be an employee who puts in 40 hours goes home and gets paid?

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So he wants to pay you like a sub but treat you like an employee.

My guess is he will use you and abuse you until you quit.

You have to ask yourself do you want to be a sub and take the responsibility that comes with being one or do you want to be an employee who puts in 40 hours goes home and gets paid?

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Not even, subs choose their hours and get paid before the GC gets paid for the project lol.

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I'm new to running my fencing business and as an employer myself, this is a dilemma I currently have.
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I'm new to running my fencing business and as an employer myself, this is a dilemma I currently have.
Employee vs sub?

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Hey OP, is the boss a house flipper by chance?


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