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Old 07-13-2014, 12:46 PM   #61
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I meant to quote "smalltownguy"
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The "secret" is the parents.

It's just that simple. The children my cousin teaches arrive at school eager and willing to learn - and remarkably well-behaved and polite.
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JYou're advocating a rudimentary instead of a well-rounded education, which would lower our population's skills and understanding as a whole.
Oh, I think we're pert near scraping bottom now.
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I paid dearly for my three children to attend private schools, mainly because our public schools were a zoo.

When parents have a "little skin in the game," they're going to make sure that their little snowflake does well.

Plus, our private school had a great discipline policy: If you do something really stupid, we're going to call your parents and let them know that you'll be waiting for them at the curb. Permanent suspension.

We've hamstrung our public school teachers to the point where the worst felons are still permitted back into the classroom.

It's unbelievable.
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Its the most spoken language because dumb ass Americans learn it because its the most spoken language.....At some point we just gotta say this is our friggen country speak English or gtfo.
Spanish is not the most spoken language in the world - Mandarin Chinese is. Have you ever traveled to a different country? Obviously not. In just about EVERY 'developed' country in the world, people speak at least 2 languages, many speak 3, and English is the most popular second language they learn. I absolutely agree that if you're going to live here you need to speak English, but not teaching Spanish (or any other second language) is a deterrent to a childs education. It opens their mind to thinking "Well, the language is different, so what else is different?". I speak somewhat (barely) passable Spanish and it's a close relative to Italian and Portugese. So when I go to Italy or Spain I can (barely) converse with the locals, but you would be surprised at the doors it opens when you're at least making an attempt to understand their language and culture. Don't be so closed minded, other cultures have a lot to offer. And no, I ain't no damn liberal . I'm very conservative, but also well educated.

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As some of you may know my wife is a 23 year elementary teacher. She says the superintendent makes more then the U.S. Secretary of State. (Something north of 300,000) He also has a driver. It's not that they don't have the money, it's where the money is prioritized. She says her district has spent millions on specific programs, training teachers, and then for whatever reason scrap the program with no explanation, before it's ever implemented.

I also want to say when the voters approve tax hikes all in the name of the children, all it does is allow them to use the money they once used for schools on pet political projects. So it's a "slight of hand" and corruption at its finest.

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Gever Tulley is the author of the book "50 Dangerous Things You Should Let Your Children Do" and he also has a summer camp called the Tinkering School where kids learn how build things, use power tools, etc. This is a very good video where he talks about some of those things.

http://youtu.be/C-VacaaN75o
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Gever Tulley is the author of the book "50 Dangerous Things You Should Let Your Children Do" and he also has a summer camp called the Tinkering School where kids learn how build things, use power tools, etc. This is a very good video where he talks about some of those things.

http://youtu.be/C-VacaaN75o
That was a very good TED, Ted.
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I had shop class from 6-12th grade I loved it. I graduated back in 1996 and that was the time period of the slow decline of removing shop class from schools.

I think it's also a liability issue for the school with the hazards of power tools. One of our shop teachers in my grade school cut his fingers off on the table saw ironically teaching class how to safely use it. So after that happened they got rid of shop. I went to another grade school in the area and they still had it.

Also the generations these days have no desire to do this stuff because it's WORK. Today everyone wants to be an internet millionaire and do stuff with computers.
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Ohhh, that's just to easy.
That is the flute I am talking about!!

I am pretty good at it.
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lots of good stuff here

the education system is a joke and very broken

I barley graduated hs, spent most of my time in the shop hanging out or taking a class, it was a mix of nerdy kids like me who liked to build things and f' ups. By 11th grade I realized what a bs game it was everyday, but I kept my head down, didn't pay much attention, never did home work, and failed almost every test I took, my brother mouthed off to teachers, asked them what they were gonna do to him and finally dropped out at age 15 he hit the road at age 16 and traveled the country for the next 5 yrs

after screwing around for a spell and based on talent and talent only I went to college and graduated with honors because I got to design things, build stuff, sew, paint, and weld. I had one class where I was the only student, we'd sit the prof. office and go over design principals for an hour three times a week. I can learn and focus in a situation like that.

my brother and I are both very successful people today, we each started and own small businesses (he has multiple) and answer only to ourselves. But neither of us worked out in the normal hs setting. this was twenty some years ago, I can't imagine it today
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Gever Tulley is the author of the book "50 Dangerous Things You Should Let Your Children Do" and he also has a summer camp called the Tinkering School where kids learn how build things, use power tools, etc. This is a very good video where he talks about some of those things.

http://youtu.be/C-VacaaN75o
I bought that book and gave it to our daughter, for her daughter. I read it first though, and thought it was great.
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Spanish is not the most spoken language in the world - Mandarin Chinese is. Have you ever traveled to a different country? Obviously not. In just about EVERY 'developed' country in the world, people speak at least 2 languages, many speak 3,
Sure, ive been to France and England. I took French in HS for 3 years, almost could have a conversation with it at one time. My daughter messes around with spanish, french, and Chinese on the internet.

I simply refuse to say we should learn spanish because of the illegal foreign invaders trampling through our country.
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That is the flute I am talking about!!

I am pretty good at it.
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I go to a tech school and we did have shop every other week now that we are merging with another tech school we now have a 3 day shop week


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