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Old 05-15-2019, 08:54 PM   #21
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It's tough to believe every once and awhile a monkey will fall out of a tree..........'cause they are real good climbers.
To rephrase, the screw spacing I see looks fine.
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:24 AM   #22
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That was about 5 years ago and specifically about collar ties and roof rafter to ceiling joist connections. Too many nails destroys the wood fibers and weakens the wood.


Thank you ! The collar tie connection was what I thought was used as an example. I have struck out trying to pull that up in their archives. If it would not be a long search for you,I'd be appreciative if you could post up access to it.
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By the way Rio,what is a stud shoe ?
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Stud shoe is used to reinforce a stud when you have to run pipes through them.
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I was thinking something like a combination of the two systems that Kevjob posted so in addition to being a strap on the bottom it would also go up the sides like a stud shoe does with a stud. That way there'd be double support.
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I was thinking something like a combination of the two systems that Kevjob posted so in addition to being a strap on the bottom it would also go up the sides like a stud shoe does with a stud. That way there'd be double support.
The metwood one is like a stud shoe for joists but has limits of span etc...
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It might not be but just by looking at the photo it really looks like those have a pretty big diameter (because of their head size) and there really are a lot of them.

I was thinking something similar to a stud shoe would work really well.
They are these from Simpson https://www.homedepot.com/p/Simpson-...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
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I was thinking something like a combination of the two systems that Kevjob posted so in addition to being a strap on the bottom it would also go up the sides like a stud shoe does with a stud. That way there'd be double support.
The metwood ones are fully engineered for the application. There is no need for a strap with them, they cover 3 sides.
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The metwood photo shows a C section and it's not going under the member, it's going to the outside.......
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The metwood photo shows a C section and it's not going under the member, it's going to the outside.......
There is also the Z shape to install flange over and or under joist.
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I have the report if anyone is interested. Email me at [email protected]

Can't upload too big, 13 pages
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The metwood photo shows a C section and it's not going under the member, it's going to the outside.......
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There is also the Z shape to install flange over and or under joist.
I've only considered the z shape. The c has no lateral stiffness.
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I used the metwood one last year. It’s the same 2 piece bracket regardless of it you run it in C or Z configuration. I wish they would change the screws because they use a small square drive bit that really likes to slip. Otherwise it’s a nice product.
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I used the metwood one last year. Itís the same 2 piece bracket regardless of it you run it in C or Z configuration. I wish they would change the screws because they use a small square drive bit that really likes to slip. Otherwise itís a nice product.



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Those stud shoes are fairly new to the code and I'm surprised it such a loose citation. Studs could carry point loads from the second floor under long spans.

I don't recall seeing much on the Simpson book either as far as limitations.

I tend to think too many screws weaken the wood but I have sat in Simpson seminars and they show video of max performance and they perform as they claim

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