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Old 10-28-2014, 04:38 PM   #1
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Old 10-28-2014, 04:39 PM   #2
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Cinch rings and shark bites.

Looks pro to me...
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Cinch rings and shark bites. Looks pro to me...
they really tested every type of fitting on this mess... Several scraps of pex for each 12" run
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Cinch rings and shark bites. Looks pro to me...
What's wrong with crimp rings?
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What's wrong with crimp rings?
crimp rings are quite good id say. Hes referring to the cinch/spring clamp type. Im not sure if thats what was on there and what most plumbers think of those but i think they're pretty standard and acceptable.
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What's wrong with crimp rings?
Nothing.

I just don't like seeing sharkbites on a permanent pro, fix.

IMHO.

If I gotta burn some copper to use all one system, I'll do it.
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Nothing. I just don't like seeing sharkbites on a permanent pro, fix. IMHO. If I gotta burn some copper to use all one system, I'll do it.
oh, sharkbites are another story IMO. Id definitely prefer not to see that ****E
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Nothing. I just don't like seeing sharkbites on a permanent pro, fix. IMHO. If I gotta burn some copper to use all one system, I'll do it.
I usually just make a switch if we're doing a kitchen or bathroom. Find a good spot, cut the copper, sweat a brass copper to pec fitting. Then go from there. I always use copper stub outs.



I might be building a house soon for myself. I'm thinking of running copper in the basement, then switching to pex as soon as you can't see it.
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Besides, last I checked in our County, shark bites are NOT code compliant.

Yet...
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Besides, last I checked in our County, shark bites are NOT code compliant. Yet...
I had to use one on my own house. They had 1/4" copper to the toilet. There is a ton of weird plumbing in my house. But I kinked it bad trying to take the toilet out. It's was like 9:30 at night so I rushed to Home Depot, they are the only one open. They don't have anything that will work so I had to cut the kink out, put 1/4" pex in and shark bit it, because they don't make any other option for 1/4" pex
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Shark bite looks like its a good emergency repair coupling to hold things together until you can do something respectable! Personally, the earlier thread about making bends in straight copper lines got me thinking away from pex and more towards long sticks of copper, sweep bends and few couplings
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Besides, last I checked in our County, shark bites are NOT code compliant.

Yet...
Shark Bites are compliant with the UPC and the IPC:

http://www.sharkbite.com/faqs/
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Not everyone favors sweating copper pipes...

So, because the average joe can use it properly it is hackish? (i'm a crimp ringer myself). I have seen sharkbites hold over 5 years on water mains with no issues. I had my doubts when I first saw them, but they work and last. As long as you verify the teeth arent broke before you use them, they will hold like anything else.

Anyone give a legitimate, argument agains them? I'm just curious, that's all.

All systems can fail from improper connection: copper not sweated correctly, cpvc from not held tight and letting the glue set, and sharkbites from not putting on clean staright edges.

So why the hate for them?
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Not everyone favors sweating copper pipes... So, because the average joe can use it properly it is hackish? (i'm a crimp ringer myself). I have seen sharkbites hold over 5 years on water mains with no issues. I had my doubts when I first saw them, but they work and last. As long as you verify the teeth arent broke before you use them, they will hold like anything else. Anyone give a legitimate, argument agains them? I'm just curious, that's all. All systems can fail from improper connection: copper not sweated correctly, cpvc from not held tight and letting the glue set, and sharkbites from not putting on clean staright edges. So why the hate for them?
The gas company's guys did some work on my meter last year and showed me these fittings they use, which are basically shark bites.

He said the company that makes them offers some sort of prize if you can actually pull one off without the actual pipe breaking apart.
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Just like anything youre not familiar with, is "new", costs more but is more user friendly, and allows lesser trained people to make installations, i definitely hold a biased against sharkbite.

But i know mine is a very baseless reaction, almost purely because theyre foreign to me, ive never used them, and they cost more.

Ive felt the same way about other things in the past that i ended up accepting
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The problem with them is they rely on a rubber o ring. So it's only as good as that. I think they are bulky and ugly. I'd never use one in a wall
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The problem with them is they rely on a rubber o ring. So it's only as good as that. I think they are bulky and ugly. I'd never use one in a wall
i definitely dont like the way they look. Since im used to copper lines with standard fittings, they definitely dont look "workmanlike"
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I've had one fail on me, but it was kind of my fault. Replaced a copper joint in an easily accessible closet...However I didn't check the orings before I installed... one happened to be broken. Turned the water back on and it sprayed water everywhere... it was obvious once I took it off though... now I visually inspect before using... never had another one fail, although I still would never use one in a wall or somewhere not very easily accessible.

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