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Builders Inc. 10-28-2018 03:00 PM

If you could move where would you go?
 
Well itís not a fantasy choice. No I cannot afford to set up shop on bora bora island. Iím just done with natural disasters and hurricanes, humidity and hot summers. Im selling my big equipment that canít fit in a truck and putting that thing in the wind. Idc where it takes me. Just as long as itís not hot and the pay vs housing scale is in a bit better situation then the redneck rivera. Idk nor care if my license reciprocates. Iíll work for someone. Thinking out west? Dang I wish I could get a hot greasy bag of lunch but every fast food joint is leveled for 15 miles around me. Smh people wanna build really strong houses, but imagine living there after everything else around you is screwed.


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MarkJames 10-28-2018 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Builders Inc. (Post 7397215)
Well itís not a fantasy choice. No I cannot afford to set up shop on bora bora island. Iím just done with natural disasters and hurricanes, humidity and hot summers. Im selling my big equipment that canít fit in a truck and putting that thing in the wind. Idc where it takes me. Just as long as itís not hot and the pay vs housing scale is in a bit better situation then the redneck rivera. Idk nor care if my license reciprocates. Iíll work for someone. Thinking out west? Dang I wish I could get a hot greasy bag of lunch but every fast food joint is leveled for 15 miles around me. Smh people wanna build really strong houses, but imagine living there after everything else around you is screwed.


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What town are you in or near?

Builders Inc. 10-28-2018 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkJames (Post 7397241)
What town are you in or near?



Where hurricane Michael hit.


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SmallTownGuy 10-28-2018 03:25 PM

Upper peninsula from spring until right about now.

And I'm still looking for a winter hideout.

Because I'm about all done putting up with this climate change that ya'll say isn't happening.


I mean it.

MarkJames 10-28-2018 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Builders Inc. (Post 7397243)
Where hurricane Michael hit.


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Ok.

Maybe a respite is in order. Recharge your batteries and clear your head a bit. Good luck with everything, including the decisions ahead.

RickP 10-28-2018 03:33 PM

I'm happy in Tennessee. If I won the lottery, I would stay here. I lived in southeast Florida for 37 years and the Denver area for 3.5 years. It does get hot and humid here in the summer, but there is a change in seasons. My issue out west, is the dry air. I can't stand it. With my last job, I worked in many states. California, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, Montana, Wyoming, Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois, Missouri, Kansas, Georgia, North Carolina, Kentucky,Texas and Louisiana. I loved Idaho(driving throuh) and Montana, but not enough to endure the winters.

SmallTownGuy 10-28-2018 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Builders Inc. (Post 7397215)
Well itís not a fantasy choice. No I cannot afford to set up shop on bora bora island. Iím just done with natural disasters and hurricanes, humidity and hot summers. Im selling my big equipment that canít fit in a truck and putting that thing in the wind. Idc where it takes me. Just as long as itís not hot and the pay vs housing scale is in a bit better situation then the redneck rivera. Idk nor care if my license reciprocates. Iíll work for someone. Thinking out west? Dang I wish I could get a hot greasy bag of lunch but every fast food joint is leveled for 15 miles around me. Smh people wanna build really strong houses, but imagine living there after everything else around you is screwed.


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In 1993, when volunteered myself for the flood in Missouri, I did so, mostly because of the grit and determination I saw in the eyes of so many people who lived and worked in the area I adopted".

There was a young guy - newly married - his dad owned a local excavating company - delivered the first load of sandbags to me, defied the Army Corp with me, checked on me every day, got me what I wanted - no matter what I asked for - and he was tireless, 12-16 hour days, some days around the clock.

And his own house that he had just bought was trashed, so they stayed with his parents.

Eventually, that damned flood went away. And I came upon him, waders on, deep in the basement of his own place now, and he literally was going mad-man crazy. I had never seen him frustrated or even unhappy in all the weeks before this. Just always cheerful, and giving and doing.

Everywhere stunk - from rotting animal corpses to rotting plants and backed up sewers and - THE RIVER. Flies and pestilence EVERYWHERE.

So, Job One - the challenge was simple - find a damn drain, or some way to get the basement empty. I went and got a trash pump, set it up with power from a neighbor, and got him to stand still.

That's when he broke down.

We can put our own crap on hold for a long time when needed - well some of us can. So "Dan" and I - we had a good cry. I mean, down to the bones soul emptying. And I made him take the wife to St Louis for the weekend. I'm sure his dad never knew.

Things got better after that.

But yeah, that part off Missouri is always muggy, never enough economy to grow a really big company.

Builders Inc. 10-28-2018 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SmallTownGuy (Post 7397267)
In 1993, when volunteered myself for the flood in Missouri, I did so, mostly because of the grit and determination I saw in the eyes of so many people who lived and worked in the area I adopted".



There was a young guy - newly married - his dad owned a local excavating company - delivered the first load of sandbags to me, defied the Army Corp with me, checked on me every day, got me what I wanted - no matter what I asked for - and he was tireless, 12-16 hour days, some days around the clock.



And his own house that he had just bought was trashed, so they stayed with his parents.



Eventually, that damned flood went away. And I came upon him, waders on, deep in the basement of his own place now, and he literally was going mad-man crazy. I had never seen him frustrated or even unhappy in all the weeks before this. Just always cheerful, and giving and doing.



Everywhere stunk - from rotting animal corpses to rotting plants and backed up sewers and - THE RIVER. Flies and pestilence EVERYWHERE.



So, Job One - the challenge was simple - find a damn drain, or some way to get the basement empty. I went and got a trash pump, set it up with power from a neighbor, and got him to stand still.



That's when he broke down.



We can put our own crap on hold for a long time when needed - well some of us can. So "Dan" and I - we had a good cry. I mean, down to the bones soul emptying. And I made him take the wife to St Louis for the weekend. I'm sure his dad never knew.



Things got better after that.



But yeah, that part off Missouri is always muggy, never enough economy to grow a really big company.



I applaud your efforts to help. Everyone is. But I was nearly ran off the road by some millennial one stripe guardsman in a van so bad I had to hit the concrete median, luckily my windows were down so he heard me yell go home kid.

I was at an intersection where an 80 yard debris removal truck with an 80 yard trailer blazed through a non working red light. Come on idiot youíve been here a week picking up debris and drive like that? Iíve seen this company truck there for a while working my mother in laws neighborhood.

I know a guy who is in his 70ís and is going to the bank to give his house keys back to. At his age he doesnít even want to deal with the rebuild. Who cares about walking out on a mortgage at this point. Heís retired military and will still get his monthly check...


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t.carpenter00 10-28-2018 04:19 PM

I live in SW MO. Despise the place. Wages are low, quality is lower. My wife and I was literally just talking about moving. I'm ready to start over. I just don't know where...

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SmallTownGuy 10-28-2018 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Builders Inc. (Post 7397289)
I applaud your efforts to help. Everyone is. But I was nearly ran off the road by some millennial one stripe guardsman in a van so bad I had to hit the concrete median, luckily my windows were down so he heard me yell go home kid.

I was at an intersection where an 80 yard debris removal truck with an 80 yard trailer blazed through a non working red light. Come on idiot youíve been here a week picking up debris and drive like that? Iíve seen this company truck there for a while working my mother in laws neighborhood.

I know a guy who is in his 70ís and is going to the bank to give his house keys back to. At his age he doesnít even want to deal with the rebuild. Who cares about walking out on a mortgage at this point. Heís retired military and will still get his monthly check...


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yup. What I'm saying is - you are burned out. As MarkJames suggested. Take a loooooong step back.

May make the same decision, but give the spirit a chance to recovr.

War is hell.

Builders Inc. 10-28-2018 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by t.carpenter00 (Post 7397293)
I live in SW MO. Despise the place. Wages are low, quality is lower. My wife and I was literally just talking about moving. I'm ready to start over. I just don't know where...

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Iím thinking Colorado or somewhere similar. With mountains and a white winter. So tired of sand and humidity. I have a friend who is an avid outdoorsman who lives there and is always posting pics of river kayaking and hiking to these lakes with mountain tops in the background. They drive to Utah and go to the Narrows at Zionís. Ive never been there so I donít know what to expect. I gave here 30 years, time for a change.


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t.carpenter00 10-28-2018 04:34 PM

My wife and kids hate winter... I was thinking Tennessee of the Carolinas.

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Jaws 10-28-2018 04:42 PM

Texas sucks. Go to Oklahoma lol

Sorry for the devastation, brother. Sucks

Builders Inc. 10-28-2018 04:45 PM

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Texas sucks. Go to Oklahoma lol

Sorry for the devastation, brother. Sucks



Lol no on the okey! Damn tornadoes.


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Golden view 10-28-2018 05:17 PM

I've made a few changes recently. It's always a system shock and takes time to start back up, but in the end is usually good. For me it's meant less, easier work for more pay.

If you moved all the way out here I'd probably give you a job until you started your own thing. Competition is not a concern. Probably the same in many areas around the country.

tjbnwi 10-28-2018 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Builders Inc. (Post 7397307)
Iím thinking Colorado or somewhere similar. With mountains and a white winter. So tired of sand and humidity. I have a friend who is an avid outdoorsman who lives there and is always posting pics of river kayaking and hiking to these lakes with mountain tops in the background. They drive to Utah and go to the Narrows at Zionís. Ive never been there so I donít know what to expect. I gave here 30 years, time for a change.


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Sending you a PM.

Tom

Big Johnson 10-28-2018 06:21 PM

Venezuela

TimNJ 10-28-2018 07:57 PM

Read through this:

https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/...s-blogs_trends

Tinstaafl 10-28-2018 08:16 PM

Quito, Ecuador. On the equator, yet up a mountain so it's not oppressively hot. YOYO for income.

WarnerConstInc. 10-28-2018 10:27 PM

Any place that I could by a 3 or 4 story giant old brick mill building and be left alone.

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