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Old 02-04-2013, 04:36 PM   #81
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Every trade is like that...that's what separates trades and rocket science.

No they aren't. There are people that can just never learn a trade. There are people who were born to be ditch diggers. Usually people who lack common sense.
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No they aren't. There are people that can just never learn a trade. There are people who were born to be ditch diggers. Usually people who lack common sense.
Ditch digging isn't a trade?
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Ditch digging isn't a trade?
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Lemme make a scientific analysis with our findings...

Trades are something anyone can do and learn with practice.

Ditch digging is a trade.

People born without common sense are doomed to be ditch diggers.

Therefore tradesmen lack common sense.

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No they aren't. There are people that can just never learn a trade. There are people who were born to be ditch diggers. Usually people who lack common sense.
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Perhaps we should go by Skilled Trades rather then "Trades"...
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Man your on me like nugent on a minor!
Dude you went off topic again Like I said the age of consent over here was 14 till 5 or 6 years ago, it went up to 16! I never tell a 32 year old lady what a cute baby she has because it's more than likely her grand baby. Do you feel the same way about John Walch you know from Americas most wanted? Search the web and you will never find his wifes birth date. They have gone through big work to cleanse it out! She too was young when she had Adam. It was not uncommon in that time and still goes on today! So what? It is not illegal. The list is long on this stuff. Ted approved Pele approved and Pele's parents approved and who cares what the peanut gallery says
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That was really a good read, thanks for the link.
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Maybe you should have read the following posts I made. There is no doubt someone can be proficient in other areas. This doesn't necessarily apply to anyone here but 99% of the guys I run into that say "oh I do everything" turn out to be good at nothing and complete butchers. It's not to say I am limited to indoor finish either. I choose finish carpentry because there is more of a demand for it and I am never out of work.

Again maybe read more into the thread. His explanation does not apply to indoor caulking on say a Countertop or Vanity. How many people use bond breakers or baker rods in a kitchen or bathroom application?






In any case Caulking is something anyone can do and learn with practice. There is nothing anyone with some common sense wont be able to figure out.
Dont know many GCs? Many are proficient in many areas, some a superb in many areas. Same for a lot of carpenters.
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Dont know many GCs? Many are proficient in many areas, some a superb in many areas. Same for a lot of carpenters.
I have met a few. Mostly doing custom homes who did very nice work. Even they sub contracted certain things out. Most sites I work on use various trades and not a GC. There is no doubt there is good guys out there but these days they seem to be few and far between. People seem to be more concerned about saving a buck then paying someone a little extra that's going to do a good job.
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I've tried the plastic tools and find they do a sloppy job, I can do it much neater with my finger. You might be waiting too long to smooth out your bead, run your finger over the bead right after you do a section, don't go around a whole window and then try to smooth it. The longer you wait the more it dries up which can cause lumps when you go to smooth it out. Are you cutting the tip at an angle and dragging the gun so the long point is dragging behind? I find it helps to keep some tie wire, rags, and a putty knife too when caulking.
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Dude you went off topic again Like I said the age of consent over here was 14 till 5 or 6 years ago, it went up to 16! I never tell a 32 year old lady what a cute baby she has because it's more than likely her grand baby.
Where isn't that true? - it ain't no island exclusive.

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Do you feel the same way about John Walch you know from Americas most wanted? Search the web and you will never find his wifes birth date. They have gone through big work to cleanse it out! She too was young when she had Adam. It was not uncommon in that time and still goes on today! So what? It is not illegal. The list is long on this stuff. Ted approved Pele approved and Pele's parents approved and who cares what the peanut gallery says
Well, that makes it OK then...
Uh, Pele is the least of butheds scores, mkeh?
He's a serial caulker (wink-wink, nod-nod)
But that's OK, because Jerry Lee Lewis got his chantilly lace from the juvenile section too...

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Fellas, I assure you sealant installation is a trade. We perform miles and miles of sealant installation each year. However, virtually none of it is interior and certainly not "painters caulk" or "plumbers caulk". We generally stay on the exterior. Our work generally includes sealant in masonry control joints, pre-cast or tilt panel to same, site concrete expansion joints etc.

We use tools that we call "slicks" to tool the sealant after gunning sealant into a joint. Using spit, water, soapy water, blood, Windex, solvent or any other wetting agent are not appropriate methods for tooling sealant. Also, the type of sealant we use has a specific width to depth ratio that must be followed. We regularly use backer rod or bond breaker tape.

Now, I can tell you that even though I grew up in this business and have shot miles of exterior sealant, I absolutely suck at painters caulk or plumbers caulk. Almost none of the methods we use on the exterior work on the interior. I can also tell you that I regularly use a wet finger to "tool" inside caulking for my personal projects; usually spit.

I think the one big mistake I see while installing any type of caulking or sealant is applying too much material initially; it's a lot easier to add some than it is to remove it. Other than that, my best advice is to find a method that works for you and practice.
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Using spit, water, soapy water, blood, Windex, solvent or any other wetting agent are not appropriate methods for tooling sealant.
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Why?

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Fellas, I assure you sealant installation is a trade. We perform miles and miles of sealant installation each year. However, virtually none of it is interior and certainly not "painters caulk" or "plumbers caulk". We generally stay on the exterior. Our work generally includes sealant in masonry control joints, pre-cast or tilt panel to same, site concrete expansion joints etc.

We use tools that we call "slicks" to tool the sealant after gunning sealant into a joint. Using spit, water, soapy water, blood, Windex, solvent or any other wetting agent are not appropriate methods for tooling sealant. Also, the type of sealant we use has a specific width to depth ratio that must be followed. We regularly use backer rod or bond breaker tape.

Now, I can tell you that even though I grew up in this business and have shot miles of exterior sealant, I absolutely suck at painters caulk or plumbers caulk. Almost none of the methods we use on the exterior work on the interior. I can also tell you that I regularly use a wet finger to "tool" inside caulking for my personal projects; usually spit.

I think the one big mistake I see while installing any type of caulking or sealant is applying too much material initially; it's a lot easier to add some than it is to remove it. Other than that, my best advice is to find a method that works for you and practice.
exactly..there's caulking and what I like to call ''schmooing''
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Why?

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Well, class begins today. But we are not just giving out answers.

So riddle me this ?
What would be the intended purpose of Spraying ? Licking ? Or somehow wetting the caulk . ?

How could this ultimately affect the original purpose and intent of caulking in the first place ?

P.S. I always ! 99% of the time my finger is wet at some point when dressing / tooling a caulk joint. just because you know it doesn't mean you can't do it

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With all do respect you put siding on. I do finish work indoors. So in reality what do you know? Your clearly not in the trade I am in. In fact I would love to see you come in and caulk a brand new kitchen counter top or vanity with a massively cut tip. The gaps I work with are never any bigger then a 1/8th and in extreme cases slightly larger. I scribe everything so there is never much need for exterior type caulking, that is what I would call a botched butcher job indoors.

I have seen plenty of clowns over the years cut the tip of their caulking gun with the spout cutter on the side. They then proceed to goop it all over the place and make a mess. The worst case being clear caulking on top of oak chair rail for a commercial restaurant.
I didn't mean to disrespect you,just that true caulking is a specialty and [I'll include myself]most of the time we aren't actually creating good working joints..more cosmetic ones..for awhile anyway

I guess the best advice I could give is read the tube
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I didn't mean to disrespect you,just that true caulking is a specialty and [I'll include myself]most of the time we aren't actually creating good working joints..more cosmetic ones..for awhile anyway

I guess the best advice I could give is read the tube
I'll include myself with Tom, it was disrespectful to be called out like that. A trade being interior or exterior has no bearing on a man's knowledge, capability, craftsmanship or pride in his work.

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