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Old 10-28-2019, 07:16 PM   #1
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I Feel Like I Failed...


But I dont think I should.

I've been working on the designer shingle job I signed a couple of months ago.

I was about a week and a half late getting started because of my fall. I couldn't do much for about 3 weeks.

My tear off crew has been M.I.A. for the last week.

My main guy has an attendance/ tardy issue and I ended up giving him a week off because of it during the project

We have lost about 6 days to rain I think this month.

The 2ply shingles are not cooperating. They are getting brittle, cracking, and breaking.

I have a schedule full of projects that need completed


So I came to the conclusion that I needed to reach a stopping point on this project. Not try to force something that is obviously getting the better of me at this moment...something bad ALWAYS happens when I do.

So I talked to my customer and he was super understanding and agreed that if I'm not feeling it, that I shouldn't force it and he is ok with having a mismatched roof for the winter. Nor any problems with paying me for work completed up to this point.

I know I am doing the right thing stopping for the season but I just can't shake the feeling I failed.

There is only 14/15 sq to go but it is a messed up 14/15 sq...lot of room for error

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Old 10-28-2019, 07:18 PM   #2
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Re: I Feel Like I Failed...


Took these pix a week ago. The sunroom and steep side on the right of the house is done

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Old 10-28-2019, 07:35 PM   #3
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Re: I Feel Like I Failed...


It's always disappointing not completing expectations, yours or other's.

Keep your chin up Andy, you did what you could on a complicated home, with a new and complicated product. Not too many people can say they are proficient with those shingles. It'll pay off in the future.


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A slight delay for the proper install and long term results of a lifetime product isn’t a failure. Forcing it when you know conditions aren’t right for success could have been. Fortunately the customer understands and trusts your judgement because he knows you actually care to do what’s best.
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Old 10-28-2019, 07:54 PM   #5
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We all understand it's easy but for the owner to that awesome.
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Old 10-28-2019, 08:12 PM   #6
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Thanks guys. I know I set a high bar and have high expectations. I'm just not used to not at least coming in close to them.

I've never been in the position to have to have that conversation with my customer before and I feel like I let him down even though he was smiling and making jokes through the whole conversation.

He said he is glad he can reclaim his driveway....lol
I've had my dump trailer and tool trailer there for a month.

I guess a good way to look at it is money in the bank and my first job of spring is scheduled. Lol
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Old 10-28-2019, 08:14 PM   #7
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Just think of it as an exterior painting project. It's not uncommon to pull off at the end of the season and go back in the spring. Sometimes, it is the best option, not the failure option.


Also, that is one groovy customer for understanding.
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You did the smart thing, rushing through just to get it done sometimes is the bigger failure
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Some of the smartest decisions I've made is to put the brakes on.

Once you get the feeling you're on the tracks and you aren't the train anymore, time to do something else.
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Good news is he probably doesn't look at his roof a lot.

Not like you painted half his bathroom then ****ed off and he's gonna see it every time he lets one ride.
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Good news is he probably doesn't look at his roof a lot.

Not like you painted half his bathroom then ****ed off and he's gonna see it every time he lets one ride.
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Ahh C'Mon cowboy the fvck up!

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I missed the story about your fall. Best for a good recovery.

When one is out of time and the days are getting short and cold, that job doesn't help.
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I missed the story about your fall. Best for a good recovery.



When one is out of time and the days are getting short and cold, that job doesn't help.
I slipped off a ladder with my feet being about 8' above the sidewalk. Landed on my heel. Was about 6 weeks ago.

Still gets sore about 6 hours into the day. Bearable though
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Dude you got this. Whether it's now or later you still got it!


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The roof will be covered with snow soon enough, so he won't even notice it.
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I've been caught by snow a couple times, and I'm darn sure glad they were in the 1:3 range.

That roof looks like a good one to have things going for you, not against you.
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That's a monster roof... It's always best to go with your gut. Customer understands, great for you. Best to put a project like that to bed properly as to have some crazy thing happen.

...end of season days shortening we all start feeling that crush.

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Old Yesterday, 04:52 PM   #19
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I'll tell you what the cure for the failure feeling is.

The Malarkey Rep came and saw me today....they want this roof on their website when I am done!

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I still canít believe there is above ground pool there


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