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Old 03-30-2019, 08:47 PM   #1
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........Does a Lead or Foreman make in your area?

I was looking at some figures online, and the Carpenters Union wage scale for a Foreman in Northern California is $81.65 an hour. Not all on the check of course.

Another site showed an average for a Lead Carpenter in Southern California for about 55K a year, with a high end of about 78K.

Seemed a little low to me.
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Old 03-30-2019, 09:04 PM   #2
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That's just one component of the apples & oranges equation. What's the average house or rental cost in the same area? How much does dinner at a nice restaurant cost?

Salaries in this area are significantly lower, but so is the cost of living.

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My lead grossed 58k last year, between hourly wage and bonuses.

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That's just one component of the apples & oranges equation. What's the average house or rental cost in the same area? How much does dinner at a nice restaurant cost?

Salaries in this area are significantly lower, but so is the cost of living.
Pretty sure I know that.

But I didn't ask how much a steak or a house costs. That'll be in my next thread.

It's just out of curiosity. I've been in this game long enough to know about local wage scales. You could live like a king in Nebraska, and be homeless in California with the same yearly income.

So how much does a good Lead make in Western PA, Jerry?
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Point is, the numbers are pretty meaningless without taking the whole picture.

Dunno about western PA, but around here, I'd say $20-25/hr. Do I get a lollipop?
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Point is, the numbers are pretty meaningless without taking the whole picture.

Dunno about western PA, but around here, I'd say $20-25/hr.
But you don't know why I'm asking, so maybe they're not meaningless to me. I guess everything we discuss on this site could be meaningless, because I've bowed out of participating here on a couple of occasions for extended periods of time, and you what, nothing changed. I still got up, went to work, did my job and got paid.

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My numbers are a little old, since there has been a bump due to the shortage. Not long ago it was $25 an hour. Probably closer to $35 now.

Check back in a couple years, it will be down to $20...
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Here, the job sites are showing 22-25.
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I was around 30/hr before going out on my own 2 years ago. In central and coastal NJ

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My lead makes $31 and hour with a company truck to take home. Only works 4 days a week because of kids or that would be higher.

I have 2 apprentices, 1 make $21 with a company truck to take home and the other is $18.

I'm 20 min away from Boston.
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I’d say the average here is probably $20; private company, no union or prevailing wage.
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........Does a Lead or Foreman make in your area?

I was looking at some figures online, and the Carpenters Union wage scale for a Foreman in Northern California is $81.65 an hour. Not all on the check of course.

Another site showed an average for a Lead Carpenter in Southern California for about 55K a year, with a high end of about 78K.

Seemed a little low to me.
I can tell you that while the cost of living in So Cal is sky high, the wages are not. Piece workers here make the most money. Lead guys are going to vary. Experience, are the guys that travel with the foreman from job to job or are they a company guy ? Also , many companies here have their own biz model , and it varies wildly.

The foreman wages do not sustain life as we know it in any place that isn't 167 degrees in the summer. That's why many go down the road of self employment.


I am referencing rough carpentry here, btw.
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My lead makes 35 an hour but makes a much as 1000 bucks a day doing demo for me. That's what keeps him here. Most every job I do includes a demo. Most demos don't take more than a day.

One could call it up to 1000 per job bonus. The system works great for what I do. My company is small so my bills are small as well.

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I'd also like to point out my best buddy is a framing contractor and we barrow guys back and forth. Keeps them busy and they stay around because of it.

And nevermind Tin I've met him and he's exactly the same in person. Just an old ****.


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My lead makes 35 an hour but makes a much as 1000 bucks a day doing demo for me. That's what keeps him here. Most every job I do includes a demo. Most demos don't take more than a day.

One could call it up to 1000 per job bonus. The system works great for what I do. My company is small so my bills are small as well.

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How exactly does that work? Not every demo is the same size obviously. So, he gets paid more to demo?
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How exactly does that work? Not every demo is the same size obviously. So, he gets paid more to demo?


Not every demo pays the same. But I pay him more like a sub on demo days. He takes care of everything I don't do anything. But pay. When I met him he was running and still does run a hauling business. He had his own company called R&R hauling. I met him from a client who used him to demo a job for me.


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It's interesting, but it doesn't seem that wages have caught up with demand yet.

There is a nationwide shortage of truck drivers, so much so that mallwart is offering up to 90K a year to drive for them.

Not so in construction.

A ton of guys have gone out on their own, and they're all swamped with work, and have even raised prices.

But no one can find decent help to hire.
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It's interesting, but it doesn't seem that wages have caught up with demand yet.

There is a nationwide shortage of truck drivers, so much so that mallwart is offering up to 90K a year to drive for them.

Not so in construction.

A ton of guys have gone out on their own, and they're all swamped with work, and have even raised prices.

But no one can find decent help to hire.
My top tech makes $35.00 per hour, plus he gets a company van to take home with all gas and other expenses paid

The helper tech gets $22 per hour, he will get more if he learns more of the installation of our low volt systems. His company expenses are paid too including mileage.

Both guys are electricians that bend and install conduit like crazy.

I probably get paid the least, but tons of write offs. Hoping to make more this year.

We are lower middle class where we live. Million dollar condo, one slightly older Mercedes SUV (ML 350) which is the beater car my wife takes to work, one newer Mercedes Cross Over (GLC 300 2018). Unfortunately we're not driving the Maseratis, Teslas, or Maclerans or living in a 2.8 - 5mil house like others in our town.
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We are lower middle class where we live. Million dollar condo, one slightly older Mercedes SUV (ML 350) which is the beater car my wife takes to work, one newer Mercedes Cross Over (GLC 300 2018). Unfortunately we're not driving the Maseratis, Teslas, or Maclerans or living in a 2.8 - 5mil house like others in our town.
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