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Old 04-13-2017, 02:49 PM   #1
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How Do YOU Decline Bad Work?


You've probably all seen lots of jobs that are just more trouble then they're worth, how do you politely decline?

I don't want to be rude to the owners but some times things are just a no-win for us no matter what. Whats your approach to this? Any go to phrases?
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Old 04-13-2017, 03:21 PM   #2
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"My name is Jay, Not Jesus, I can't raise the dead, or make money on your job..." "No thank You".....

You are under my lowest price point, call brand X, Y,& Z ....A list of area Hacks...

It would impossible for me to build your project to all codes and regulations and make a small profit.

The Job's location makes it impossible to profitably build on that lot....
You budget is too low by a factor of 2X, 3X, etc....
I don't trust you to honor your contracts/words....

Your design team (Frank Lloyd Wright's grandson) was last seen rearranging the deck chairs on the SS Titanic.

You want Jimmy Carter's Habit for Humanity to build you a "free" house?

I called your Bank about the line of Credit, and just got laughs....

I run a for Profit business....

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Thank you for the invitation to bid your project but we will have to pass at this time.

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Old 04-13-2017, 03:32 PM   #4
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The search bar is your friend

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Theres also the 'no thank you' bid. Take the time and materials and quadruple it.

Ironically, often gets approved. Win win.

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Old 04-13-2017, 03:34 PM   #6
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"in all honesty, you guys would end up paying more than this is worth."

That's what I told someone a couple of days ago when they wanted a hall closet turned into a powder room.
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Old 04-13-2017, 03:46 PM   #7
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Not sure what you mean by bad job. I'm certainly not going to take a job I won't make money on. That would make me a moron since I'm the one that bid it.
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It's not necessarily a bad job, just one you don't want....

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One man's trash is another man's treasure....
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Old 04-13-2017, 05:20 PM   #9
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Me..."my dance card is full at this time". Customer "we are not in hurry,when would you be available " ? Me... The same time as Johnny Mathis, the twelfth of never".
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I've had a couple where I just bluntly told the HO that I couldn't in good conscience do what he wanted. Either demo and replace (in those instances), or find someone else to do the job.

They did, and that didn't bother me one bit.
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I've had a couple where I just bluntly told the HO that I couldn't in good conscience do what he wanted. Either demo and replace (in those instances), or find someone else to do the job.

They did, and that didn't bother me one bit.
Most people respect outright honesty. It's sometimes not easy but keeps your reputation in tact and gets you from having to make a bunch of stupid excuses.
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:10 PM   #12
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Honesty is the best policy. Thank them for contacting you and tell them that either your company is not the right fit for the project or the project is not the right fit for your company.
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I make a living picking up after others. If it can't be fixed cost-effectively, I tell them.

I had a guy call me on the way home from another job yesterday. I told him my minimum charge, he tried to negotiate, immediately went on double secret probation, but I didn't budge. He called and cancelled ten minutes later. Win/win.
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Re: How Do YOU Decline Bad Work?


if they called you , they want it done ,


you could tell them " I just can`t do what you want , its not cost practical. but you might want to consider doing ........."

they might say " man ! that's a great option !"

if they don`t budge , don`t worry about feelings
just say " I just can`t help you "
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If i dont want the job for whatever reason i just tell them i am too busy and have too much work lined up.

Or if its a bigger job i tell them its too big for me since i am a small outfit


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Re: How Do YOU Decline Bad Work?


Just price it out insanely. Usually they'll not even bother to call you back.
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I will do anything for anybody if I don't have to compromise my pricing structure to make it happen. Sometimes I don't think the customs has any idea what it will take to do what the want. If I think there is a very small chance they will move forward I will give them an idea on a price that is about 20% higher than what I think. When I give them the price I say "If you get to a point where you a fairly serious about moving forward with this let me know and I will put it in proposal form. 70% of the time its over after that. When they request a proposal I tighten up the numbers and submit the proposal like any other job. Once it reaches this point they almost always purchase.

To me its not about good and bad jobs. Its about spending my time wisely when it comes to pursuing future projects.
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Although I did have a recent job that another contractor started. It was a 100+ year old house and the project was finishing the basement. The previous contractor was off to a terrible stat and there was never any permit.

I just said "I can't get involved in this" and felt great about it even though they where pissed.
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Unfortunately at this time I am not going to be able to take over this project for you

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I used the "Not in good conscience..." play just yesterday.
Job: replacing water damaged trim on interior windows on mobile home prior to sale.
Actual scope of work : remove siding to roof/wall intersection to inspect, replace flashing, install wrb, sheathing, possibly framing, drywall, and finally trim and reinstall siding.

Request : "Could you just install the trim?"

When I pushed my finger into the one piece of jamb extension, water beaded out of it...

"I cannot in good conscience... Blah blah blah... Thank you for your interest. "

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