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Old 11-06-2010, 06:20 AM   #21
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There's a thread on here: "The Industry May Never Recover." As I read a few more posts, yesterday, I wondered about the effects DIY has had. I have to listen to more and more weekend warrior stories as I visit homes. We must be even more careful now to avoid the conversation:
"Who the hell did this crap?"
"Well, we did that ourselves."
"Oh... well it just looks fabulous."

I just smile and say: "Yeah. I know. Uh huh. You might try this."
I recently had a guy who was empowered by books, shows, and internet. He started gutting several rooms at once. Well... he got a little tired of it. I came in. Then he wanted to put the punch list in order for me. I told him that I will make sure that everything is done in the correct sequence. After a while, he got the hang of it.

I mainly wonder how many things are going to be done that cause me headaches down the road. Oversights that lead to to "major surgery" with a highly limited budget. This is interesting. Thanks, everyone, for sharing.

I wonder if Norm Abrams would remember the most important safety rule if he had Pinky and Kate in the shop with him.

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Old 11-06-2010, 03:43 PM   #22
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So can you back up what you said? And you do realize that what you just typed is on the internet...so I guess they shouldn't believe what you put on the internet. Some people just love stirring the pot.

No **** it's on the internet . Everyone should choose what they want to believe but in this case you like to google topics and reply back with the first thing you believe. I live on stirring the pot.


Here is a 2007 interview with Mike.

AND OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T EVEN READ THE REPORTS CLEARLY. THAT INTERVIEW WAS DONE SOMETIME IN 2005-2006, IT WAS POSTED ON THE INTERNET ON MARCH, 4TH 2007. IT HAD BEEN ORIGINALLY APPEARED IN THEIR FALL 2006 MAGAZINE. CLEARLY STATED AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE .

Some people think that the owners get their renovation for free, but that's not true, right?
No, that's not true. It's almost free. They pay about 10 to 20% of the actual cost. Unfortunately, I can't get everything for free and the day that I can is the day that it will be for free. Obviously, they're screwed financially and we're there to help them.

Is there a way you can make that fact clearer on the show?
Well, it can't be free. In Canadian TV production, there's not enough money to pay for such a large renovation. The production pay is for the shooting only. When it comes down to the project that is done by me. I will bring everybody I know and bend their arms and maybe they'll get ten cents on the dollar for their work. Not all of them, but most of them will donate their time. It's the little guys — I wouldn't want to hurt the little guys — and so they may need a couple of dollars in some material that I cannot get for free.

w w w . popjournalism.ca/pop/features/2007/00151mikeholmes. shtml

So as I stated Mike and his crew are FREE, but the HO has to pay the other contractors and they usually discount there work and labor greatly. I don't think I have to say anything else.

Having cleared that what you have posted is back from sometime in 2005-2006, meaning that mike would have been talking about his past experiance with how things work with the renovations. You have to realize that because it is a tv show budgets of how things get paid change from year to year. we are heading into 2011 right now.

Straight from www . holmesonhomes . com

Because of the show being a television series, YES costs for the homeowners, who are likely to be strapped for cash due to the previous contractors' mistakes and/or frauds, are kept to a minimum (10% to 20% of the cost of repair). AND YES MOST contractors hired on the show have even donated time, materials, and labor to help homeowners in need. The remainder of the work is funded by the TV production company (and indirectly, through the Canadian government, by tax credits), but in some cases, Mike Holmes personally contributes funds towards the repairs. Fundraisers and sponsorships are also a huge part of each show.

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well thats pretty much what tnt said


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Anyway.....


I think Mike Holmes is great. I hope people that want to hire me are fans of Mike's because I am fine with the standards that he goes by. Do it right, absolutely. No short cuts, do it right, and do it right all the time.

I also eavesdrop on other contractors especially when they're discussing electricity.
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Because of the show being a television series, YES costs for the homeowners, who are likely to be strapped for cash due to the previous contractors' mistakes and/or frauds, are kept to a minimum (10% to 20% of the cost of repair). AND YES MOST contractors hired on the show have even donated time, materials, and labor to help homeowners in need. The remainder of the work is funded by the TV production company (and indirectly, through the Canadian government, by tax credits), but in some cases, Mike Holmes personally contributes funds towards the repairs. Fundraisers and sponsorships are also a huge part of each show.
So where was I wrong?

And Thanks Tom for the backup!
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Only pay 10 to 20%!!!!!

Sign me up. Get a lowball hack job, which I drastically underpay for then only pay 10 - 20% of what I should have paid, plus get more work done then I started to have done.



So often I have seen him do way more than was part of the original job. You got a bay window put in wrong, we will just change this other one too, and change out your electrical panel also.
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i would change out the window too,letricals not my expertise but if there was any question i'd have a sparky look at that too[don't know what show that's from]

i think i approach my work roughly the same as he does
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I like watching the show. I like listening to Mike's rants on how upsidedown the world is when poor little jimmy ( -sniff- ) gets his wheelchair stuck in a hole in the floor left there from the previous contractor.

His new show's pretty funny too (Holmes inspection). There's Damon, who now has the duty to shed tears on how terrible a state the HO has been left in. He's pretty good at it, but sometimes hyperventilates a little too much. I wonder if Mike Holmes went and got his home inspection license, or if he's just another unlicensed industry FAKE ;-)

And Mike Homes has graduated from rusty-Hydro-city-worker Carharrt overalls to dark brown overalls. Cant get those dirty, so he just swoops in on Damon.

I think I'm going to start showing up to estimates in coveralls. with at least two pencils, sharpies, pens, chalk pencils, waterbrush, and chopsticks stuck in my chest plate. It will start to give people confidence that I'm their man.

.... 10-20% cost! wow. I guess that's so they can tell all their friends that you really CAN renovate your kitchen, reroof your house, and replace your heating system all for $3312.

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i don't know who your typical customer is but mine are pretty educated

they know the real world and understand what a tv show is,maybe instead of a wardrobe change you should be looking for a client change
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I don't watch the show all too often. I remember one show when the customers and Mike were talking about how the customers did it right. They did their homework, did not hire the cheapest, but still got burned.
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i don't know who your typical customer is but mine are pretty educated

they know the real world and understand what a tv show is,maybe instead of a wardrobe change you should be looking for a client change
I'm pretty convinced the coveralls are my problem. but changing clients so their eyes don't pop out of their head when i tell them a very fair price would be a nice thing too

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