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Old 10-21-2019, 11:39 AM   #21
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You owe me 5 bucks.

Next time you demo a crane, take pictures, and I will pay closer attention.

You and davis - crane demo experts. lolol
Let me get this straight:

1. It's impossible to know what is 'correct' unless you've done it.
2. You want to know what is the 'correct' way.
3. You've never done it.
3. Being told the 'correct' way means it's wrong because you've never done it therefore it's 'incorrect'.

Simply amazing.








And you now owe me 10 bucks.
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Old 10-21-2019, 12:15 PM   #22
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Let me get this straight:

2. You want to know what is the 'correct' way.
No I don't.

And I'm damned sure you nor davis do either.

You owe me.
Pay up or I take the dog away from your sister.
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Branard pointed out that a high rise structural collapse during construction is extremely rare. I'd wager no one here has direct experience with a high rise collapse during construction.

If you want to minimize man hours in the danger zone, controlled demo gives the least man-hours. That's the safest way.
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I'd wager no one here has direct experience with a high rise collapse during construction..
Including you. expecially you. So when you say :

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Explosives would have been the safest way under the circumstances.
You are straight talking out your arse.
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Including you. expecially you. So when you say :



You are straight talking out your arse.
At least I get the right answer.

If you're asserting explosives on the crane takes more man-hours in the danger zone than some other option, that's an interesting position.
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My grandpappy told me never to argue with an idiot.

That must mean I'm done here.
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If you're asserting explosives on the crane takes more man-hours in the danger zone than some other option, that's an interesting position.
YOU asserted "Explosives would have been the safest way under the circumstances."

And then you stated "I'd wager no one here has direct experience with a high rise collapse during construction."

Which includes YOU.

Which means YOU are talking out your arse.

again.
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Yup, and in that view, anyone who is trying to do something for the first time is talking out their butt.

All those rocket scientists that put a man on the moon were just BSing.

Golden Gate Bridge? Yup, pure BS.

It's engineering...
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I probably would have went with a helicopter with those giant saw blade gimbals that hang under it. I'm no expert, but you can't tell me you wouldn't watch that.
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Just the fact that the experts on site decided to use explosives is a good argument that is was the best way under the circumstances.
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My go to answer is ———explosives, always explosives.

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My go to answer is ———explosives, always explosives.

Tom
My buddy Dan (RIP) and Edgar Montrose would agree with you. In fact, both would claim exlosives as the best way to make sausage or hamburger. Or clean the lodge, or remove a stubborn stain...
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Just the fact that the experts on site decided to use explosives is a good argument that is was the best way under the circumstances.
Indeed.

Far different that davis stating out of hand explosives would be best - having had no experience in the matter.
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Indeed.

Far different that davis stating out of hand explosives would be best - having had no experience in the matter.
Same thing. 2 opinions both saying the same thing. They're both right.

The why behind it is simple. Damaged unstable cranes being anchored to a damaged structure.

That makes it unpredictable so taking out piecewise is unpredictable.

Short of Branard's hybrid sky hook timber harvester or a 300' boom excavator, it's getting blasted.
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How about 4 Chinooks and a team from each fast ropes down and ties off to the crane. Then they place small charges where the crane is attached to the building and climb back up to the helicopters. Then simultaneously the Chinooks start lifting while the charges are set off to break it free from the structure. Then the guy in the lead helicopter calls dispatch and says “ask the contractor where he wants his crane delivered” a la James Bond at the begging of “Tommorow Never Dies.”

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I vote for a disintegrating ray gun fired from orbit. Much safer than explosives, because no one has to climb up there to plant charges. Quieter, too.
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I vote for a disintegrating ray gun fired from orbit. Much safer than explosives, because no one has to climb up there to plant charges. Quieter, too.
Oh it'd be fast. But the permits will take forever.
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Phaser or disruptor, I'd buy in on that pre-IPO.
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