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Old 09-18-2007, 08:59 PM   #1
 
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hey all. im new here and let me say that this is an awsome site. ive got a question for any gutter guys on here. i recently bought a friend of mine gutter biz out and he really didnt have time to get together and show me how everything worked. ive been around the construction part all my life so i figured that i would learn myself. well after 2 months of working i have learned alot. i have come up on a job that requires me to NOT use box or miter strips. they want the corners cut in without any box or miter strips. so far i have used either of the two up until now. my question is how do you put a 90* corner together without using anything? thabks in advance to your help.
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:26 PM   #2
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First off get your mind out of the gutter, are you using aluminum or copper?
I could see doing it in copper but aluminum may be a pain. The only way I could see it is using pop rivets on a bracket up top where you cant see it and some sort of epoxy.

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Old 09-18-2007, 10:29 PM   #3
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we NEVER use boxes or miter strips, our gutters are ALWAYS mitered and riveted, Someone gave a good tutorial on the process a while back. Always make sure you use a good sealant too.
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Old 09-19-2007, 12:00 PM   #4
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I remember the thread posted about how to miter a gutter from about 3-6 months back.

Use the search function or just look in the roofing sub-forum and check out the titles until you find the old post about how experienced guys do it.

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thanks for the replies. im using 5" aluminum gutters. i also checked out the search option and found a few things about miters. id really like some more info and possibly some pics. i may be asking to much, and im sorry if so.


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I hate to do this publicly, but I can't find an email link for you, so...

1. Quit using the name gutterdude since I have it registered, unless you want to buy it from me.

2. It's beyond me how you aluminum guys get your sheet metal license without trade knowledge, but that's ok. I make a good living fixing your work. (ever notice how seamless gutters have more seams?).

3. A miter is a miter. You cut a 90 in a gutter the same way you do with wood. You just have to keep the line straight, and cut one inch flaps on the flat planes of the K gutter, and rivet or zip screw.

4. Use lots of rivets, or I'll be out there next year fixing the seams in your seamless gutter and charging your customer twice for it.
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Could you put the miter strip in the inside so you would have something to rivet to? Or is it to big and not fit?
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We will sometime have to cut our own miters when we do walk out bays or the customer want a neater job. That way you can do custom miters 30, 45, or what ever. Figure the degree you need then cut your first side and on the other side leave a 1" flap on the bottom, rivet and make sure you seal it well.
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hey all. im new here and let me say that this is an awsome site. ive got a question for any gutter guys on here. i recently bought a friend of mine gutter biz out and he really didnt have time to get together and show me how everything worked. ive been around the construction part all my life so i figured that i would learn myself. well after 2 months of working i have learned alot. i have come up on a job that requires me to NOT use box or miter strips. they want the corners cut in without any box or miter strips. so far i have used either of the two up until now. my question is how do you put a 90* corner together without using anything? thabks in advance to your help.
try this: http://gutterprotellsall.com/GutterCuts.html
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You'll probably find something on utube. We only miter cut galvanized and copper. We use box miters for aluminum. It's too hard to explain with words, seek out a video.
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We always custom miter. Looks way better and is quicker. You can try www.austingutterman.com I believe he sells a video on how to do it.

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