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Old 08-08-2019, 11:42 PM   #21
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I used to bounce with my foreman as his lead around 4 or 5 framing companies. It was how we stayed busy. We were a snap line plate and detail crew. We were paid piece price. Made bank as well.

Sometimes we would buck headers and sills as part of the package. None of those companies allowed built headers. They were some big framing companies too. I just assumed the muni's quit allowing it.


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We've always built headers. Always see them that way around here. Used to be the laborer and it was my job to build headers and corners, bucks etc.

Guess times change.

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We've always built headers. Always see them that way around here. Used to be the laborer and it was my job to build headers and corners, bucks etc.

Guess times change.

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They sandwich plywood. Way too much work and time when you can just cut a 4x6 to length.


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They sandwich plywood. Way too much work and time when you can just cut a 4x6 to length.


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Sure, now it makes sense. Didn't have big saws or even sawzalls back then. More work to cut and rotate then just nail gun a pile of parts together.

Besides, old dogs and new...

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I can cut a 4x6 easily with a wormdrive. Just turn it on your foot.


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Hey, quit hitting me with facts. It makes me feel sad.

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I have never seen a 4x6 in a lumberyard here
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very unusual to see site built headers in california.

solid sawn lumber, lvl, glu-lam etc are the norm.
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I have never seen a 4x6 in a lumberyard here
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Excluding treated lumber

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I'd have to check the saw mill to see if they have 4X6, I only see PT in the yards.

Just to state the obvious, the old balloon framed buildings around here didn't use built up headers ......

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any yard i have been to out west here stocks DF #2BTR in 4x4 thru 4x12.

6x6 thru 6x12 also.

i can get larger dimension with about a 5 day lead time.
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Our lumber yards stock from 4"x4" to 4"x14" all PT only
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I have a new rule for building headers.

“If you think there is a chance it may take months to dry in your frame, apply a band of 6” ice and water to the top of them so they don’t start separating. “


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Or just use a 4x material.
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Or 6x


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We'd cut all the window and door packages as well at times. All the framers had to do was nail. Very little cutting for them. Last thing you want is a bunch of yahoo's thinking. Our motto as layout guys was "assume ALL the framers we're complete idiots". Hell we did everything but draw them a little picture.


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any yard i have been to out west here stocks DF #2BTR in 4x4 thru 4x12.

6x6 thru 6x12 also.

i can get larger dimension with about a 5 day lead time.
Yup, and for awhile (long ago), redwood 2X4s were cheaper than spf studs.

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Yup, and for awhile (long ago), redwood 2X4s were cheaper than spf studs.

Lucky bastids.....
There's a few old buildings around here, where the walls are built out of all redwood 2x4's.



Laid flat. Stacked up 8 feet high. Solid wall of wood.




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