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Old 12-14-2018, 11:18 PM   #41
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In other words I'm pretty sure I can build a private road to a custom home I'm building. But where does the line start and stop?


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Old 12-14-2018, 11:22 PM   #42
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I did a little work in the bay area, and in the sierras and, If my recollection is right you are correct sir. You can take on flooring. Simple fact is that it takes a greater license to contract, then it would to lay flooring. Just walk into your local building department, demand a coffee, a blowjob, and three cookies. When the response is what? you just yell.... THREE COOKIES!!!!! all kidding aside, A GC should be able to pull a flooring permit in California..
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Old 12-14-2018, 11:23 PM   #43
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In other words I'm pretty sure I can build a private road to a custom home I'm building. But where does the line start and stop?


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we are all trying to piss in the wind up a rope...

where license classifications mostly come in to play is in public works/govt. jobs.

entities call out what license(s) are required.

that's why many gc's carry the a ticket also...

bidders are all over this making certain all have current appropriate licenses and are registered with the dir...

if a gc were to build a road to a custom residence and it failed for some reason an argument could be made in court you were not properly licensed to build the road....
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Old 12-14-2018, 11:31 PM   #44
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we are all trying to piss in the wind up a rope...



where license classifications mostly come in to play is in public works/govt. jobs.



entities call out what license(s) are required.



that's why many gc's carry the a ticket also...



bidders are all over this making certain all have current appropriate licenses and are registered with the dir...



if a gc were to build a road to a custom residence and it failed for some reason an argument could be made in court you were not properly licensed to build the road....


Not if my license allows it. But an argument can always be made for something. If my company also did the roofing they can say the same. Or the landscaping.


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Sorry Mike, but you're mistaken about this one.

B Licenses specifically are limited to structures.

A Licenses are specifically limited to "Engineering and Earth works projects".

You could not build a sewage treatment plant, bridge, highway, or dam with a B License.

If fact, you would not even be allowed to bid on those jobs without an A License.







Oh $#!T, now I've gone down the rabbit hole of debating with Mike. What am I doing here, I'm not TNT!
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Sorry Mike, but you're mistaken about this one.



B Licenses specifically are limited to structures.



A Licenses are specifically limited to "Engineering and Earth works projects".



You could not build a sewage treatment plant, bridge, highway, or dam with a B License.



If fact, you would not even be allowed to bid on those jobs without an A License.















Oh $#!T, now I've gone down the rabbit hole of debating with Mike. What am I doing here, I'm not TNT!


You may be right, but there's nothing to show that. I mean a driveway isn't a structure anymore than a road is.


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Sorry Mike, but you're mistaken about this one.



B Licenses specifically are limited to structures.



A Licenses are specifically limited to "Engineering and Earth works projects".



You could not build a sewage treatment plant, bridge, highway, or dam with a B License.



If fact, you would not even be allowed to bid on those jobs without an A License.















Oh $#!T, now I've gone down the rabbit hole of debating with Mike. What am I doing here, I'm not TNT!


I'm not mistaken because I didn't say a B license could build a road. I simply read the wording from the board, and cited the CSLB. I did say I could build a private drive to a custom home I build. I stand by that claim.


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You may be right, but there's nothing to show that. I mean a driveway isn't a structure anymore than a road is.


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I think a residential driveway is probably one of those "grey areas", that they just allow as part of "site prep".
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I think a residential driveway is probably one of those "grey areas", that they just allow as part of "site prep".


A residential driveway is not a grey area. I know for sure it's something I can build. In fact it's not even a question.


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there may be some confusion here as to completing self performed work on a project as opposed to bidding a specific project...

an example...with a b license you could not bid a road to a residence as a specific project w/o an a license.
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there may be some confusion here as to completing self performed work on a project as opposed to bidding a specific project...



an example...with a b license you could not bid a road to a residence as a specific project w/o an a license.


I could bid a private road/drive to a residence that's included in the bid for building the house. I couldn't bid just the road to the house by itself.


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there may be some confusion here as to completing self performed work on a project as opposed to bidding a specific project...



an example...with a b license you could not bid a road to a residence as a specific project w/o an a license.


And building a home I can do all the trades in-house except wells and fire. Per the CSLB.


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I could bid a private road/drive to a residence that's included in the bid for building the house. I couldn't bid just the road to the house by itself.


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yes, that is correct.

unless you have the correct license.
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I'm not sure I can't build a concrete driveway by itself either. In fact it's flat work which doesn't always require a permit.


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I'm not fighting you guys, I'm honestly trying to figure out the boundaries.


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And building a home I can do all the trades in-house except wells and fire. Per the CSLB.


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probably, except maybe a swimming pool....
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Good night ya all! Got to work in the morning to make up for my mini vacation!


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I'm not sure I can't build a concrete driveway by itself either. In fact it's flat work which doesn't always require a permit.


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Here a driveway replacement doesn’t require a permit but you still have to hold a contractors license to do it for ��.

Any new driveway requires a permit from the county road commission, one that abuts a county road requires a fee to be paid for the permit.
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I used to be for licencing until I talked to a bunch of GCs who are from California and one from Colorado up at TAB. Moved to Austin to get away from there, most of them are pretty big contractors.

Sounds to me from those boys there is a still a bunch of hacks low balling and doing **** work, so it would just be a tax to me.

I can build whatever the **** I want and charge what ever I want, in any manner I want. Cost Plus, time and materials, fixed cost, cost plus a fixed fee, management fee whatever. I can do any trades I want or sub them all out, minus MEPs.

Those guys here with licenses from other states ain't building a better house than me, in energy efficiency, structure or aesthetics

Love Texas..... will still love Texas after the hippies and yuppies show up from y'alls state and **** it up lol. Just wont love them..
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I used to be for licencing until I talked to a bunch of GCs who are from California and one from Colorado up at TAB. Moved to Austin to get away from there, most of them are pretty big contractors.

Sounds to me from those boys there is a still a bunch of hacks low balling and doing **** work, so it would just be a tax to me.

I can build whatever the **** I want and charge what ever I want, in any manner I want. Cost Plus, time and materials, fixed cost, cost plus a fixed fee, management fee whatever. I can do any trades I want or sub them all out, minus MEPs.

Those guys here with licenses from other states ain't building a better house than me, in energy efficiency, structure or aesthetics

Love Texas..... will still love Texas after the hippies and yuppies show up from y'alls state and **** it up lol. Just wont love them..
I hate you.

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