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Old 12-14-2018, 04:31 AM   #21
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Old 12-14-2018, 08:15 AM   #22
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From what I’ve read on here in California they can even do mep once they have a contractor license.

Michigan might be one of the worst states for licensing. You can’t do mep unless you are licensed in each one of those trades. If you wanted to get licensed in all three it would take a minimum of 22 years. That’s if you can get someone to hire you and get apprenticeships.
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From what Iíve read on here in California they can even do mep once they have a contractor license.

Michigan might be one of the worst states for licensing. You canít do mep unless you are licensed in each one of those trades. If you wanted to get licensed in all three it would take a minimum of 22 years. Thatís if you can get someone to hire you and get apprenticeships.


I can do any trade pull any permit I want except dig a well or fire prevention with a B General Contractors license. It's a critical license in this state. However as long as I sub out the fire sprinklers I can bid it.


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I can do any trade pull any permit I want except dig a well or fire prevention with a B General Contractors license. It's a critical license in this state. However as long as I sub out the fire sprinklers I can bid it.


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Nope, you cannot build a bridge or pave a road on your own, you would need someone with an A or C license.

There would be absolutely no findings of any wrong doing if the cslb investigated a B contractor installing wood flooring.

They would need a seller permit if they sold any flooring uninstalled tho.


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Nope, you cannot build a bridge or pave a road on your own, you would need someone with an A or C license.

There would be absolutely no findings of any wrong doing if the cslb investigated a B contractor installing wood flooring.

They would need a seller permit if they sold any flooring uninstalled tho.


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There is many C licenses that I can do with a B license without having the C license.

Please show me where I can't pave a road as long as I am doing two other trades within the contract.

Here's the limitations from the board.

(c) No general building contractor shall contract for any project that includes the "C-16" Fire Protection classification as provided for in Section 7026.12 or the "C-57" Well Drilling classification as provided for in Section 13750.5 of the Water Code, unless the general building contractor holds the specialty license, or subcontracts with the appropriately licensed specialty contractor.





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Nope, you cannot build a bridge or pave a road on your own, you would need someone with an A or C license.



In other words I'll need the citation for your claim.


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I donít need to research what you can and canít do with your B. You do.

You can not work on or under a public road in California without an A or C license.


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Here's the complete language

B - General Building Contractor

Business & Professions Code
Division 3, Chapter 9. Contractors, Article 4. Classifications

7057. (a) Except as provided in this section, a general building contractor is a contractor whose principal contracting business is in connection with any structure built, being built, or to be built, for the support, shelter, and enclosure of persons, animals, chattels, or movable property of any kind, requiring in its construction the use of at least two unrelated building trades or crafts, or to do or superintend the whole or any part thereof.

This does not include anyone who merely furnishes materials or supplies under Section 7045 without fabricating them into, or consuming them in the performance of the work of the general building contractor.

(b) A general building contractor may take a prime contract or a subcontract for a framing or carpentry project. However, a general building contractor shall not take a prime contract for any project involving trades other than framing or carpentry unless the prime contract requires at least two unrelated building trades or crafts other than framing or carpentry, or unless the general building contractor holds the appropriate license classification or subcontracts with an appropriately licensed specialty contractor to perform the work. A general building contractor shall not take a subcontract involving trades other than framing or carpentry, unless the subcontract requires at least two unrelated trades or crafts other than framing or carpentry, or unless the general building contractor holds the appropriate license classification. The general building contractor may not count framing or carpentry in calculating the two unrelated trades necessary in order for the general building contractor to be able to take a prime contract or subcontract for a project involving other trades.

(c) No general building contractor shall contract for any project that includes the "C-16" Fire Protection classification as provided for in Section 7026.12 or the "C-57" Well Drilling classification as provided for in Section 13750.5 of the Water Code, unless the general building contractor holds the specialty license, or subcontracts with the appropriately licensed specialty contractor.

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ummm.... state?
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Since your in the mood, post what an A license allows ya to do.


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I donít need to research what you can and canít do with your B. You do.

You can not work on or under a public road in California without an A or C license.


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You can't make a ligitimate claim unless you at least tell us and show us where you are getting the info.


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Matters none what an A license is allowed to do. There's many licenses that are allowed to do a lot of things, doesn't mean another license can't.


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I can do any trade in house (Except fire and wells per cslb) as a B license in this state as long as Im doing two other trades besides carpentry trades. In other words I can do the plumbing and electrical as well as the framing.


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I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm not saying you're right either without a citation.


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You can do any trade as long as a structure is involved, house, shelter, ect. Take out the structure part and the B license is obsolete.


You can not do the grading, site utilities, and electrical for a pay to park parking lot with no structure.

Civil is a different game, there is a reason I got an A and a B license and it isnít because I love regulation fees.

That being said the city planners usually donít care if you have an A or B, they will issue the permits and allow work because they are ignorant of the laws they enforce. Unless there is a claim or complaint everyone gets away with it.


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from the link i posted earlier...

"A" General Engineering Contractor
Can an "A" General Engineering contractor contract to perform the work of a single trade (specialty work) if that specialty work is an integral part of the scope of work for a general engineering contractor? For example, an "A" contractor can build a freeway, which can include pouring concrete and putting up fences. Can the "A" contractor take a contract for concrete work only or to build a fence only?
An "A" contractor can contract to perform all or any part of a project that falls under the "A" classification. California Code of Regulations section 834(a) states "...a general engineering contractor shall operate only within those areas defined in Section 7056 of the [Business and Professions (B&P)] Code." Therefore an "A" contractor could take a contract to build a fence or pour concrete if the work was originally or is currently part of the type of projects listed in B&P Code section 7056 (airports, roads and similar "fixed works").
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Can an "A" General Engineering contractor contract to perform the work of a single trade (specialty work) if that specialty work is an integral part of the scope of work for a general engineering contractor? For example, an "A" contractor can build a freeway, which can include pouring concrete and putting up fences. Can the "A" contractor take a contract for concrete work only or to build a fence only?

An "A" contractor can contract to perform all or any part of a project that falls under the "A" classification. California Code of Regulations section 834(a) states "...a general engineering contractor shall operate only within those areas defined in Section 7056 of the [Business and Professions (B&P)] Code." Therefore an "A" contractor could take a contract to build a fence or pour concrete if the work was originally or is currently part of the type of projects listed in B&P Code section 7056 (airports, roads and similar "fixed works").


Where does it say a B can't pave a road? I get that an A can. But there are many classifications that a B can do as well as the specialty licensees.


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You can do any trade as long as a structure is involved, house, shelter, ect. Take out the structure part and the B license is obsolete.


You can not do the grading, site utilities, and electrical for a pay to park parking lot with no structure.

Civil is a different game, there is a reason I got an A and a B license and it isnít because I love regulation fees.

That being said the city planners usually donít care if you have an A or B, they will issue the permits and allow work because they are ignorant of the laws they enforce. Unless there is a claim or complaint everyone gets away with it.


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They can't refuse it if there's no statute saying you can't do it.

Here's an excerpt

"for the support of movable property of any kind"

Doesn't a road fall into that category?



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A driveway isn't a structure per sa.


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