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Old 01-16-2019, 10:50 PM   #21
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Re: French Door Syndrome


Cheaper than tearing the house down and trying again with thicker doors. I would think you could also probably get most others locks to work with some careful trimming with a bandsaw.
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Old 01-16-2019, 11:24 PM   #22
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You're probably right, especially since I served time in a machine shop in one of my previous lives.

I used to do all sorts of things the experts said couldn't be done. Then I got old and only do that stuff now when I'm being paid for it. Sometimes.
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What, do you think Tin has to open both to get his wife in and out of the kitchen?
I didn't say that
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:48 AM   #24
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Some great ideas with magnets and even a closers.

Outside of double closet doors I stay away from ball and catch. They bump around even if you adjust the screw / ball height to make tighter.

Where possible I add an astragal but you need to an extra inch in your rough opening. You should still be able to mortise head and foot latches to stabilize one side. That will help.
I made a wall of glass to create an office by a front door.
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Quick and dirty would be surface mount head and foot latch.
I'd probably stick with the emtek plan though.
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Quick and dirty would be surface mount head and foot latch.
I'd probably stick with the emtek plan though.
I think you could get away with just a foot latch, especially on a 24” panel.

What’s the Emtek plan? I can’t find it.
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totally unrelated and as usual no help but if you're kitchen is so tight what do you do about range hood make up air?

Also I hate French doors. they look nice but are almost always a pain.

See? No help!
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So you are opposed to, not contemporary enough, the standard surface mount cane bolt(s), an astragal stop and standard operating passage lock?

Two long drywall screws, hang a drill with charger nearby for easy access and you got it licked! Take the cat a few years to figure out to use that. Tho wife, maybe not so much so
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Add some ventilation.

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totally unrelated and as usual no help but if you're kitchen is so tight what do you do about range hood make up air?
Actually, the french doors are the weak point in that tightness.

But seriously, we usually crack a window if we need max air flow.

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So you are opposed to, not contemporary enough, the standard surface mount cane bolt(s), an astragal stop and standard operating passage lock?

Two long drywall screws, hang a drill with charger nearby for easy access and you got it licked! Take the cat a few years to figure out to use that. Tho wife, maybe not so much so
I'm not picturing how an astragal stop would make a standard latch fit. Unless you made the astragal 3-4" wide.

Don't care for surface mount bolts--this isn't a shed or a garden gate. I'd have no problem with putting a pair of flush mount bolts in the inactive door.

As for cat vs wife... not gonna go there in case she sees this post.
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Maybe just wedge one of them shut until you need to use it
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Cremone bolts
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how about a flush top bolt?

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how about a flush top bolt?
Sure. Heck, I could use TW's drywall screw for the inactive door. For the active one, I just wanna turn a knob and open the door.

Life's too complicated.
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YES. And some of them are damned beautiful and a work of art to behold mechanically.
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totally unrelated and as usual no help but if you're kitchen is so tight what do you do about range hood make up air?



Also I hate French doors. they look nice but are almost always a pain.



See? No help!


Crack a window as close as possible or install a range hood with make up air
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YES. And some of them are damned beautiful and a work of art to behold mechanically.
But can be costly
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This what I meant by traditional. Good heafty 5/8" - 3/4" x1 1/4" + wide stop applied to the fixed panel.

or a true "astragal" molding, bought or milled.

Fix the panel how ever you want and install the passage lock just like any other lock, viola operational door just like an operational door.
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That's what I used a few years ago for some customers that had the same problem. Installed one on the top and one at the bottom...worked beautifully.

Mine attached to the outside of the door.

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