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Old 06-10-2019, 10:17 AM   #1
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First Time Deck Building (any Deck Experts Here?)


Just took on my first deck building job (so go easy on me haha).

Just a few questions:

1) We hit some big roots and rocks (when digging post holes) which threw our line off a little. How important is it that the holes are perfectly in-line? There is only 4 total posts (2 beams and 2 posts each beam). Some of the holes (centers) are 2-3 inches off the line.

2) Must the beams be perfectly square to each other (parralel)?

3) 2 of the 4 sonotubes got damaged. One - the top was damaged (guy ran over it with the dingo). The other, the auger hit the side of the sonotube when underground and pushed it in. Should these 2 be pulled out and replaced?

Here are a few images to get a visual: https://imgur.com/a/3556yrX

I want to do things RIGHT, so if I need to re-do them, I will.

Please advise.
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Old 06-10-2019, 11:22 AM   #2
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Re: First Time Deck Building (any Deck Experts Here?)


this job isn't getting of on the right foot.
You need to check your building codes and get some drawings and permits if you don't have any.
You build decks for a living?

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I don't offset for roots or rocks, I either dig where they are supposed to be, or modify the design. I haven't had to modify a design yet, but that means I dig a bigger hole to get a rock out.

Post hole digger
Digging bar
Battery powered Sawzall with 12" blade
Shovel

That takes care of anything short of blasting.

Replace those sonotubes. I cut them to height, then pour and finish the concrete.


There is not a lot of slop available putting a 6" post on a 12" footing. They are structural, and they need to be right.
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Why are you digging hole right beside the tubes?
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Get the frame off, and the rest if it becomes a big pain in the butt.

I imagine you've heard that before....
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Why are you digging hole right beside the tubes?
Whimsy?
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Guess you all scared him Off

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Put a footing right next to a root, what happens when the root grows?
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this job isn't getting of on the right foot.
You need to check your building codes and get some drawings and permits if you don't have any.
I know the codes and already have a permit.

Codes don't tell you whether you can be an inch off of a string line, or if a sonotube can take a beating. Unfortunately.

Heck, i've worked in some rural towns where the permit office is a guys house.


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I don't offset for roots or rocks, I either dig where they are supposed to be, or modify the design. I haven't had to modify a design yet, but that means I dig a bigger hole to get a rock out.

Post hole digger
Digging bar
Battery powered Sawzall with 12" blade
Shovel

That takes care of anything short of blasting.

Replace those sonotubes. I cut them to height, then pour and finish the concrete.


There is not a lot of slop available putting a 6" post on a 12" footing. They are structural, and they need to be right.
Thank you for this.

You're the only person who actually answered the questions.

I'm going to re-do it.

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Why are you digging hole right beside the tubes?
Pergola footing.
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Put a footing right next to a root, what happens when the root grows?
That's what the Sawzall is for, cut it right out.
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None that are any good.

Right, Mike?


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None that are any good.

Right, Mike?


Andy.

Or none at least that want to provide some advice
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As a framer, would you be satisfied with foundation walls that are 2-3" off? I would certainly hope not, and that's why the guys will razz you a bit. You shouldn't have needed to ask.
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As a framer, would you be satisfied with foundation walls that are 2-3" off? I would certainly hope not, and that's why the guys will razz you a bit. You shouldn't have needed to ask.
That's true.

People kept telling me not to worry about it, but it kept bugging me.
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Or none at least that want to provide some advice
You posted your question at 11:17 AM on a Monday.

Most are probably busy working and don't get "settled in" until the evening.
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