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Old 04-11-2014, 11:50 PM   #21
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I can maybe sympathize with the guy if he is having some big personal problem like a death of someone close to him or a divorce or even an alcoholic that cracked and fell off the wagon. That said it's your name on your business and like Bob said he broke the trust between you and the customer. This is the kind of thing that people talk about and gives contractors a bad stereotype
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Old 04-12-2014, 04:52 AM   #22
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Look at the handwriting on the wall.

This is a situation that only costs you a little bit of booze and the homeowner's trust. Be glad that his drinking on the job or stealing from the homeowner didn't cost you something more.
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You should hear his side. Meet him somewhere in public just in case. Let him tell his side, just so you'll know. Then let him go for the two reasons everyone has mentioned here. Stealing and drinking. Give it to him in writing , it will cover your butt when he tries to collect.

I would also let the homeowner know what happened and what you did to solve the problem. If he took something you don't know about. It will be on you if you try to cover up the drinking.

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Several years ago, I had a guy I knew had a problem, but he never brought it to work.
I used to joke that he worked better hung over, because he just put his head down and suffered through it, and was more productive.
Of course, during the job we were doing for a police officer, he got stopped drunk around midnight, and name dropped the customer, calling him his best friend in an attempt to weasel out of a ticket.
Long story short, patrol officer called customer to verify, at midnight. Customer thought that since he was awakened, I should be too, with some not very nice words.
Luckily, his wife wouldn't bail him out, so I had cause to let him go for missing work the next couple days.
Spent a lot of time smoothing things over with customer, and he's referred several good jobs my way since.
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Several years ago, I had a guy I knew had a problem, but he never brought it to work.
I used to joke that he worked better hung over, because he just put his head down and suffered through it, and was more productive.
Of course, during the job we were doing for a police officer, he got stopped drunk around midnight, and name dropped the customer, calling him his best friend in an attempt to weasel out of a ticket.
Long story short, patrol officer called customer to verify, at midnight. Customer thought that since he was awakened, I should be too, with some not very nice words.
Luckily, his wife wouldn't bail him out, so I had cause to let him go for missing work the next couple days.
Spent a lot of time smoothing things over with customer, and he's referred several good jobs my way since.
That's fvckin awkward.
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Several years ago, I had a guy I knew had a problem, but he never brought it to work.
I used to joke that he worked better hung over, because he just put his head down and suffered through it, and was more productive.
Of course, during the job we were doing for a police officer, he got stopped drunk around midnight, and name dropped the customer, calling him his best friend in an attempt to weasel out of a ticket.
Long story short, patrol officer called customer to verify, at midnight. Customer thought that since he was awakened, I should be too, with some not very nice words.
Luckily, his wife wouldn't bail him out, so I had cause to let him go for missing work the next couple days.
Spent a lot of time smoothing things over with customer, and he's referred several good jobs my way since.
Sounds like the cop was kinda a douche. It's not like your kid used his name. A grown adult who works for you, at this guys house, did. I can maybe understand if he never worked on the guys house. And im have to believe you never told the guy to do that.

We did work for a plain clothes detective. When I finished their project she told me straight up to drop her name.
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I hope the question about what to do is purely rhetorical.
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Good Morning, So I meet up with my employee and he apologized for his stupid actions. He told me the reason he did what he did was because his mother is very sick. I did a little research and its true. He was very sincere and understands what he did was completely wrong in many accounts. I told him I am going to think about what to do and give him a call tomorrow morning. I think I am going to give him a chance. He worked 4 years with me with no problems. Perfect employee What do you guys think ?
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Good Morning, So I meet up with my employee and he apologized for his stupid actions. He told me the reason he did what he did was because his mother is very sick. I did a little research and its true. He was very sincere and understands what he did was completely wrong in many accounts. I told him I am going to think about what to do and give him a call tomorrow morning. I think I am going to give him a chance. He worked 4 years with me with no problems. Perfect employee What do you guys think ?
I am going to have to say that this is your decision, but when someone steals the game changes. I have given many guys second and third chances with drugs and alcohol. But when you steal from my client, there is no second chance. The character has been revealed and when things are tough he will do it again or worse.
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Good Morning, So I meet up with my employee and he apologized for his stupid actions. He told me the reason he did what he did was because his mother is very sick. I did a little research and its true. He was very sincere and understands what he did was completely wrong in many accounts. I told him I am going to think about what to do and give him a call tomorrow morning. I think I am going to give him a chance. He worked 4 years with me with no problems. Perfect employee What do you guys think ?
Your call, but he's gone in my world.
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I still can't fathom the thought of how you could ever get that $#*+ faced at a customers house.

Tough call. I would never leave him alone again if I kept him.
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Good Morning, So I meet up with my employee and he apologized for his stupid actions. He told me the reason he did what he did was because his mother is very sick. I did a little research and its true. He was very sincere and understands what he did was completely wrong in many accounts. I told him I am going to think about what to do and give him a call tomorrow morning. I think I am going to give him a chance. He worked 4 years with me with no problems. Perfect employee What do you guys think ?
The guy has my sympathy about his mother, but I don't buy it as an excuse. I've heard all the stories; some of them were true - ptsd, dying or dead mothers, girlfriend problems, divorce, debt, fill in the blank. In 20/20 hindsight not a single one had anything to do with the bad behavior. It always boils down to a guy thinking it's OK to get drunk or high on the job or steal from you or your client.
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Booze on the job and stealing? Come on, man.
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Good Morning, So I meet up with my employee and he apologized for his stupid actions. He told me the reason he did what he did was because his mother is very sick. I did a little research and its true. He was very sincere and understands what he did was completely wrong in many accounts. I told him I am going to think about what to do and give him a call tomorrow morning. I think I am going to give him a chance. He worked 4 years with me with no problems. Perfect employee What do you guys think ?
If he went out at lunch and got drunk I'd probably give him a second chance. But stealing from a client goes too far. How do you explain that to a client? Are you going to make him replace the booze and explain his actions to the client?
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Well, I'm a firm believer in redemption and restitution, not just punishment.

That being said, that's a very childish and immature move, drinking the customers booze on the job. Like a fvking teenage hat-trick. I'd understand if he got drunk and didn't show up for work...



I think if you decide to keep him, allow him the oportunity for redemption. Make him replenish the clients booze, and keep a close eye on him. Let him know he's probationary until he proves himself again.
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This is a really tough situation....

I know some might think this is a stupid question but.... What did he get in to? Cheap vodka or a nice bottle of scotch is going to make a difference in how much the HO would care and how likely they are to notice.

I think if I were to keep him if I were you he'd have to formally apologize to the client and replace what he stole + a nice bottle of wine or something. You should also make sure he understands that it was you who he disrespected by representing you this way far more than the client for stealing their booze.
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How can you explain to a customer, or the police, or your insurance company, or yourself, why you let the guy back into any customer's house?
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There is no good reason to steal, or drink on the job. The only reason someone gets drunk is because they like the way it makes them feel. He's willing to risk your business because of wanting to feel good or better, and it's such a powerful urge he will steal to get there. He's got to go. He needs awake up call. He's got to lose something to be willing to get help. If you keep him, you are enabling him. You are in essence keeping him from getting to where he needs to go before he gets help.
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Firing him could save his life if he's got an alcohol problem. He must have an alcohol problem because normal drinkers don't do theses things. IMO he's not a normal drinker. This is not characteristic of drinking like a gentleman.

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