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Old 04-10-2015, 09:13 PM   #41
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Old 04-10-2015, 11:00 PM   #42
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Not sure why you guys are trying to reduce your potential employees down to zero.I require a car, a pulse, and at least a smidgen of ambition.Everything else I can teach you. For the most part, I would rather hire a teachable guy over a know it all.
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Not sure why you guys are trying to reduce your potential employees down to zero.I require a car, a pulse, and at least a smidgen of ambition.Everything else I can teach you. For the most part, I would rather hire a teachable guy over a know it all.
You make a valid point.

So what questions would you ask to see if they have enough ambition and are teachable enough to be profitable for you?

The interview questions above, for the most part, have solid answers. You can say yes, he has this knowledge and experience, or no, he doesn't based on the answers.

What do you ask to judge ambition and teachability?
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You make a valid point.

So what questions would you ask to see if they have enough ambition and are teachable enough to be profitable for you?
I just talk to them like a person. After the initial questions about transportation and experience, I ask about where they live, other places they have worked, etc. Just get them talking. You can tell a lot about a person by the words they choose, what they talk about, etc.

I admit, I am not great at hiring either. I am pretty picky. My last two attempts at hiring someone ended up with nothing. I have a friend who has a couple of employees, and I will take a couple guys for a week or two if we get really busy. Running a CL ad will get me about 8 or 10 responses over a two week period. Half of those don't get called back after I review their resume, or read their email responses. The other half disqualify themselves somewhere in our conversation.
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Why dont you run it like a game show and start with 25, whittle them down as the day goes on with various challenges

You could even get a film crew in, it would make for a good show
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I don't know about framers, per se, but best hires are those coming off other jobs for one reason or another (the good, acceptable reasons). So it's a timing thing, as much as anything else. I had a guy help me on a couple projects who was a framer and had worked on all sorts of multi-unit stuff, large homes, etc.

Thinking back on it, there were a couple quick indicators of his quality & ambition:
he wanted to start early every day...the earlier the better.
he had his van full of the right tools
on a job where we needed to do some work on roof vents, it was no big deal to him. He pulled out his safety gear and climbed right up.
Any job I presented, he knew how to do and just started in...no thinking how to do it (and I can detect b.s a mile away)

The reason he was available is that he was working for a GC and the current projects dried up a little bit. The GC wanted him to be an independent contractor, which was fine for him, as it freed him up for projects as they came along. Something like that.
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I'm out. Been doing this for almost 40 years and I've never heard of a "hip block".
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Hire for attitude. .....train for skill.

The other way around is a pain.

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