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Old 06-20-2010, 08:36 PM   #1
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I bought a van that I am setting up to do more service call type of work. My question is how do you currently arrange for drywall repairs when you cut into the walls and ceilings when there are no other contractors on the job to take care of it? Leave it for the homeowner or do you do it or do you have someone regular you use? If you had a local guy that specialized in that kind of thing would you use him? Would it be worth $350 for less than 4 hrs and an extra charge if he had to return? Surface would be left prime painted.

And what would the drywall guys recommend for mud for this?
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There's many variables. Size of hole, shape of hole, finsih texture, ease of access etc etc etc. Some I can repair and finish in 10 mins and some take me hours.

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I bought a van that I am setting up to do more service call type of work. My question is how do you currently arrange for drywall repairs when you cut into the walls and ceilings when there are no other contractors on the job to take care of it? Leave it for the homeowner or do you do it or do you have someone regular you use? If you had a local guy that specialized in that kind of thing would you use him? Would it be worth $350 for less than 4 hrs and an extra charge if he had to return? Surface would be left prime painted.

And what would the drywall guys recommend for mud for this?
You want to charge someone for your work (you know,as a professional) and you need to ask what kind of mud to use?
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If you are going to hire a drywall pro expect to pay a premium price for small patch work. The $350 you mention could be cheap for his skills and the potential multiple trips to your job site. Have to agree with Jumbojack, what you are asking sounds like a weekend warrior.
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As a painter, I really do not like the idea of painting over multiple coats of hot mud laid down on the same day. Asking for problems IMHO.
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If you are going to hire a drywall pro expect to pay a premium price for small patch work. The $350 you mention could be cheap for his skills and the potential multiple trips to your job site. Have to agree with Jumbojack, what you are asking sounds like a weekend warrior.

First off I am NOT a weekend warrior and have plenty of experience with drywall but I admit to having no experience with being in a production mode of trying to patch a hole and get a coat of paint on it all in three hours and have it look good.

Thank you Dean V for your input.That was the type of info I was looking for.

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I am no drywall pro by any means and i tell the customer that. I can however patch up the mess i make properly and have it look nice when i am finished. Am i as fast or efficient as a pro drywaller, absolutely not. IMO all mud will work if you know the tricks of the trade, after working in an auto body shop for 6yrs laying/sanding drywall mud is easy.
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I bought a van that I am setting up to do more service call type of work. My question is how do you currently arrange for drywall repairs when you cut into the walls and ceilings when there are no other contractors on the job to take care of it? Leave it for the homeowner or do you do it or do you have someone regular you use? If you had a local guy that specialized in that kind of thing would you use him? Would it be worth $350 for less than 4 hrs and an extra charge if he had to return? Surface would be left prime painted.

And what would the drywall guys recommend for mud for this?

I think you should stay on the job and pull in that 350 for the patch and prime/its quick money.

Maybe you should sub out the first one and watch the guy patch it up.
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Use product called easy sand, comes in 45 miute 20 min. and few others for fast drying compound its good stuff, just you need to mix it. Also add plaster of paris to standard bucket spackle, the more you use the quicker it dries, just dont try it on its own.(dries instantly, experiment). Both of these work very well for quality bonding, finish and speed you just need to learn to use them.
Using plaster of paris added to premix, you should add premix to spackle tray add water, mix much wetter than usual, then add plaster paris and mix, the more plaster you use the quicker it dries or sets. It may take a few mixes to gain the experience working with this stuff.
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Use product called easy sand, comes in 45 miute 20 min. and few others for fast drying compound its good stuff, just you need to mix it. Also add plaster of paris to standard bucket spackle, the more you use the quicker it dries, just dont try it on its own.(dries instantly, experiment). Both of these work very well for quality bonding, finish and speed you just need to learn to use them.
Using plaster of paris added to premix, you should add premix to spackle tray add water, mix much wetter than usual, then add plaster paris and mix, the more plaster you use the quicker it dries or sets. It may take a few mixes to gain the experience working with this stuff.
Good information here.

I leave patching for the homeowner. I used to patch but a homeowner complained and I didn't like having a dissatisfied client because my patching work isn't professional. I want to be judged for my electrical work not my patching work.
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Use product called easy sand, comes in 45 miute 20 min. and few others for fast drying compound its good stuff, just you need to mix it. Also add plaster of paris to standard bucket spackle, the more you use the quicker it dries, just dont try it on its own.(dries instantly, experiment). Both of these work very well for quality bonding, finish and speed you just need to learn to use them.
Using plaster of paris added to premix, you should add premix to spackle tray add water, mix much wetter than usual, then add plaster paris and mix, the more plaster you use the quicker it dries or sets. It may take a few mixes to gain the experience working with this stuff.
I'm familiar with the easy sand products and have used them all including the 5 minute mud. Never heard of the Plaster of Paris mix before though. Thanks for the tip.
Just to clarify things this isn't a project I'm working on now. Like everyone I'm finding it necessary to shift gears and look at other ways of staying afloat. From what I've read on here it sounds like I'm busier than a lot of folks but I am always trying to stay one step ahead of things and always exploring alternative ventures. Thanks to all that have offered advice.
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I bought a van that I am setting up to do more service call type of work. My question is how do you currently arrange for drywall repairs when you cut into the walls and ceilings when there are no other contractors on the job to take care of it? Leave it for the homeowner or do you do it or do you have someone regular you use? If you had a local guy that specialized in that kind of thing would you use him? Would it be worth $350 for less than 4 hrs and an extra charge if he had to return? Surface would be left prime painted.

And what would the drywall guys recommend for mud for this?
5 minute mud is what you use for patching.

If you want to do this yourself, the fastest way is going to be to get yourself a bag of 5 minute mud, a supply of bull dog clips for attaching the drywall patch to the existing drywall, a roll of mesh tape and a couple of cans of texture in a spray can, orange peal and knock down. If you have stomp texture around your market place, get a stomp brush and keep a small bucket of regular mud on hand too. Get an old hair dryer too, to speed up things even more.

A little repair like a 6"x6" hole could be done from start to finish in no more than 15-30 minutes once you get good at it.
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First off I am NOT a weekend warrior and have plenty of experience with drywall but I admit to having no experience with being in a production mode of trying to patch a hole and get a coat of paint on it all in three hours and have it look good.

Thank you Dean V for your input.That was the type of info I was looking for.

I swear some of you jackals get your jollies hanging around here waiting for someone to trip so you can pounce on them. This site has some of the most knowledgable people around but unfortunately also some of the biggest A--holes around. It's no wonder that a lot of the guys that used to post a lot and offer a lot of positive comment are still here but no longer contributing. They can however be found on other forums still willingly offering up comment . Keep it up and you guys can have this good ol' boys club all to yourself.
Have a nice day.
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I would certainly recommend adding these repairs to your scope of work.

I have no idea what you would charge in NH but for me these repairs have been very very profitable.

Always wait 24 hours to prime and paint.
Explaining the process, including the need to make a couple of trips, should be a selling point and a good reason for charging what you charge.
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You have another option as well. You can install a fire rated access panel or a non fire rated access panel, depending on why the wall was opened.

If it was opened to make a repair to a pipe that took a nail, then you'll want to close it permanently. If its behind a tub, or a shower, or even a vanity, you might consider using an access panel and cutting your access hole accordingly. Most can be painted with a good paint with nothing more than a good light scuffing. They will have a different texture, but if that areas might be accessed in the future, its a nice thing to have.
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I would certainly recommend adding these repairs to your scope of work.

I have no idea what you would charge in NH but for me these repairs have been very very profitable.

Always wait 24 hours to prime and paint.
Explaining the process, including the need to make a couple of trips, should be a selling point and a good reason for charging what you charge.

Bingo!...This is exactly what I have been doing more of, and it is a boost for the cashflow. $250 min charge, paint is optional. Some HO's will do the painting, so it can be a one time trip.
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Wow, At these prices quoted here -I think I'll look into this drywall hole repair- It is simple and quick- as I usually do my own whenever cutting holes for running wires & moving lights & things. Wow, anyone in my area-sign me up.........................
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$350.00 for a drywall patch? I could be retired by now. Someplace nice.
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Wow, At these prices quoted here -I think I'll look into this drywall hole repair- It is simple and quick- as I usually do my own whenever cutting holes for running wires & moving lights & things. Wow, anyone in my area-sign me up.........................

I'm not thinking $350/hole but probably $350 for 4 hrs, travel time included.
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where do you get 5min mix at? Haven't seen anything faster than 20min in my area but it sure would speed up a fat base coat.

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