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Old 03-09-2019, 07:33 AM   #1
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this guy worked a week
did just o.k , not the brightest , nt the worst
second week 1st day ( monday) i had him chipping out wood post holes with a chipping hammer. there was 18
he called 5 hours int the day, and said he was exhausted ( hes 27 , bigger than me , and pretty well built)
at the end of the day he said " i have a piss test tomorrow , and a interview for another job tomorrow afternoon ".
he didn`t show , never hear back from him till friday
texted "can i get my check"( first thing i said when i hired him was what i tell all of them " if you want to quit , just give me some notice , don`t just disappear"
this was one of those weeks where i lost money , went thru other guys trying to get this silly fence job done,plus day rental with a chipping hammer$286
hes screaming mad , over texting me saying hes gonna slander me on social media .
i called and said " you left me hanging , i had to over pay to get this job done,i acknowledge i owe you this days work . you'll have to wait till i finish this job so i can get paid, most likely monday.
he just keeps texting , threatening
truly don`t have the money to pay him yet.

i get if i fire you , i need to pay you immediately
but am doing this guy wrong?
i truly don`t have the funds right now ( and its only $140)
just a bad personal month.
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Old 03-09-2019, 07:38 AM   #2
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If you are pinning a job profit on the dependability of a new guy, you are living in a dream world. Guys flake out all the time. You have to pay him what he is due, no matter when he quits.
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if someone quits they need to wait to be paid on the next regular pay day.
do you normally pay weekly, bi-weekly?

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Tell him you pay every two weeks and you will pay him next Friday.

But seriously you can't scrounge together 140 bucks?
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Drag it out as long as you possibly can, we can tell how much you're enjoying him blowing up your phone. Hate for you to miss another week of threatening texts & phone calls that you enjoy so much.


In case you missed my sarcastic point, pay the man & get him out of your life
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Pony up, get him out of your life, and classify the cost as tuition in the School of Hard Knocks.
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this guy worked a week

second week 1st day ( monday) ...

he called 5 hours int the day, at the end of the day

truly don`t have the money to pay him yet.
but am doing this guy wrong?

i truly don`t have the funds right now ( and its only $140)


6 days.

$140.

You have the audacity to ask if youíre doing him wrong?

(I really hope he was paid for last week and the $140 was for Monday)

Youíre doing everybody wrong if you donít charge enough to pay enough.




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Sounds like you paid him for the first weeks work on the first Friday. You need to pay the guy for the work he did at the same schedule you set the first week.

If you canít afford to pay for a few weeks salary out of pocket then you should not be hiring anyone. As an employer your responsible to pay the people who work for you regardless of you get paid or not.
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Well crap occurs this is not the first time or will it be the last time this happens, you were a pit stop for this guy until the grass got greener elsewhere.

One problem with the help sometime they are no help you should never hire any one unless you have the money on hand to pay them to pay them when you fire them a 11 o'clock on Tuesday or 4 pm on Friday when its time to hand out pay checks.
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The profit from the job shouldn't be an issue in compensating him... the labor should have already been calculated into your numbers and the profit is what you charge on top of that (i.e. - on top of Labor, Overhead, Materials)... the profit is what you pay your company that helps develop things like Capital Reserves, Emergency Funds and Equipment funds...

Any one of those would have the $140 in it and would have released you from the issue altogether...

You'll get past it in a few days and if you truly don't have the money, may have to endure some more texts... but if anything, use this situation as a jump off point to start charging enough to develop things like 3-6 months of Capital Reserves, Emergency Fund and Equipment Fund (to buy instead of rent equipment you use weekly saving you money)...

It's a bump in the road, but don't keep following the same path (i.e. - not charging enough, developing the fund reserves above, cloudy compensation practices) if you want to end up in a better place...

This too shall pass, but who would want to keep going through it?
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You owe him for every hour he was on the job working and you are obligated to pay him at the next pay period following his termination.
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You are legally obligated to pay him for hours worked. I won't even bother with the moral side of it.

The bigger issue to me is the not having $140 right now. Frankly, you have no business being in business, especially hiring employees and subs, if you don't have decent cash available (a few months bills at a minimum). Even when I was almost broke at the worst of the recession I still had $50k in credit I could draw on.

If you're really that strapped at times then you're a sneeze away from bankruptcy and you may not see it coming. It could be a broken shower door or a leaking window that does it to you.
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If he was hired as an employee, I would pay him for every single minute that he worked. If anyone, employee or sub does work for me, they get paid from me no matter if I get paid if Iím having a bad week or month.
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That you lost money and he did not keep his end of whatever handshake deal you made with him does not relieve you of your responsibility to pay him. If he destroyed a $ $5,000 door because of incompetence or even willful destructiveness, you would still be obliged to pay him.

Part of being an employer. He's not your partner.

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All that said, the part that everyone is leaving out, is that yeah, it ****ing sucks some days.

And yeah, it'd be glorious to be able to toss a months worth of overhead receipts on the floor and rub the noses of some of these jackwads in them, like a puppy that pissed on the carpet.

But phool - look in the mirror - there's the guy who chose to hire the dip ****.

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All that said, the part that everyone is leaving out, is that yeah, if ****ing sucks some days.



And yeah, it'd it'd be glorious to be able to toss a months worth of overhead receipts on the floor and rub the nose of some of these jackwads in them, like a puppy that pissed o the carpet.



But phool - look in the mirror - there's the guy who chose to hire the dip ****.



Hey, I'll buy ya a beer.
Yep lol

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6 days.

$140.

You have the audacity to ask if youíre doing him wrong?

(I really hope he was paid for last week and the $140 was for Monday)

Youíre doing everybody wrong if you donít charge enough to pay enough.




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It must be for the one day. OP was confusing though.

I agree with everyone else. If you don't have $140, but are good at construction trades, you should probably be working for someone else for a while until you build up reserves.

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