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Old 03-03-2017, 02:03 PM   #21
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So I put some scaffolding equipment / aluminum stage on Craigslist. I have not used it in several years and might as well sell it.

I just received a phone call from a man who says he's from.......(Nice town) and wants to know if my scaffolding goes up three stories. I explained to him that it is just a stage and he would need pump jacks to work with it.

I asked him if he is doing siding or something,. He says yes. So I say why don't you just hire somebody with the proper equipment it'll save you a lot of aggravation .

He asks if I know anybody.... I say I'm sorry I'm not doing this type of work anymore and cannot really recommend anyone at the moment. He continues to blur out information about the house and ask me how much this house would cost to side three stories two family blah blah blah blah.......

I say Excuse me sir there is no way for me to tell you how much this job could possibly cost over the phone I can tell you this you're most likely looking north of 20 grand. He immediately says this is why I do it myself I buy some equipment and I get a couple people to just put it up materials maybe 3 for $4,000.

I say listen, your looking at at least eight thousand in materials alone to do that house. Then you have a couple of weeks Labor, debris removal, gutters and permit.
So he could afford a two or three Family House in an expensive town and then penny-pinch doing the work.

It's incredible. And the harder it gets on legitimate contractors the more some bend the rules to survive. I don't know who to blame sometimes . Dumb homeowners and public perception followed by poor decisions by some contractor's out there.
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Old 03-03-2017, 04:44 PM   #22
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So I put some scaffolding equipment / aluminum stage on Craigslist. I have not used it in several years and might as well sell it.

I just received a phone call from a man who says he's from.......(Nice town) and wants to know if my scaffolding goes up three stories. I explained to him that it is just a stage and he would need pump jacks to work with it.

I asked him if he is doing siding or something,. He says yes. So I say why don't you just hire somebody with the proper equipment it'll save you a lot of aggravation .

He asks if I know anybody.... I say I'm sorry I'm not doing this type of work anymore and cannot really recommend anyone at the moment. He continues to blur out information about the house and ask me how much this house would cost to side three stories two family blah blah blah blah.......

I say Excuse me sir there is no way for me to tell you how much this job could possibly cost over the phone I can tell you this you're most likely looking north of 20 grand. He immediately says this is why I do it myself I buy some equipment and I get a couple people to just put it up materials maybe 3 for $4,000.

I say listen, your looking at at least eight thousand in materials alone to do that house. Then you have a couple of weeks Labor, debris removal, gutters and permit.
So he could afford a two or three Family House in an expensive town and then penny-pinch doing the work.

It's incredible. And the harder it gets on legitimate contractors the more some bend the rules to survive. I don't know who to blame sometimes . Dumb homeowners and public perception followed by poor decisions by some contractor's out there.


Tom. What are you getting rid of? Looking for a 24' pick


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Darren Im keeping my 24 and 20's those are easy to throw around when needed. Im selling a 30'L x 14"w. Its the only piece of equipment I own that is a struggle to lift by myself.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:32 PM   #24
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Darren Im keeping my 24 and 20's those are easy to throw around when needed. Im selling a 30'L x 14"w. Its the only piece of equipment I own that is a struggle to lift by myself.


Yea I hear ya with those large ones. When I did siding we had two I think they were 32'x24". Weighed a ton.


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Around here there is enough legitimate competition for the good work available. You really should try to match the work you have to the contractors expertise and resources. You don't need to call a big established outfit for a simple deck and a couple of doors and on the other hand you don't call a two man one truck outfit for a major addition and remodel. This is what people need to know more than anything to save money and frustration.

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In my town there is a local facebook page were people ask each other for baby sitters, contractors etc. with about 3000 members, this other guy keeps throwing his name out there every two minutes.
So I looked him up, not licensed.
So I call him out on the page and he goes silent for a few weeks then starts posting again. Now he has a license.
However he is not carrying workers comp. He has employees because you can see them in the pictures he is always posting.
So I call him out on it he says he is sole proprietor,
Of course this doesn't matter if you have employees you need it.
We go back and forth, then some of his clients start chiming in saying how great he is and what a d**k I am.
So it seems people don't give a crap if you carry workers comp or not, cost me over $20k a year and no one gives a cr*p.
What can you do in these circumstances.
Remind those people that are sticking up for him. That since he doesn't carry workers comp. If any employee he has injuries himself on their property while working. They can sue them, instead of him. And could lose their homes.

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