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Old 05-06-2019, 09:17 AM   #1
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I have a good customer that put custom cultured marble combination sink and vanity tops (one piece) in two of their bathrooms probably 10-12 years ago. Both developed cracks running up halfway from the drain to the near edge of the sink. One top developed it right away and was replaced and did it again. The local company that was used has since gone under.

I'm wondering if it may have been something in their mix or application that caused the problem.

They want to replace them but granite is out of the question money wise.

I've used these before, ordered from Lowes and have never had a problem I've been made aware of.

Anyone else ever used these and had a problem?

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Rob, a while back I bought an inexpensive single bowl 48" (maybe 60"?) granite with top with integrated off white bowl at Lowes in Camden. Seems like it was around $250. Maybe that's within their budget.

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I have a good customer that put custom cultured marble combination sink and vanity tops (one piece) in two of their bathrooms probably 10-12 years ago. Both developed cracks running up halfway from the drain to the near edge of the sink. One top developed it right away and was replaced and did it again. The local company that was used has since gone under.

I'm wondering if it may have been something in their mix or application that caused the problem.

They want to replace them but granite is out of the question money wise.

I've used these before, ordered from Lowes and have never had a problem I've been made aware of.

Anyone else ever used these and had a problem?

Thanks.
Back in the day I used to use them a lot, not so much now. Cracks were always at the drain after a few years. More issues with a local manufacturer since they mixed in a bucket. Larger manufacturers have more foolproof mixing methods and much less issues. I swear the local guys were always high from the fumes and that was the problem.

The ones I have used recently have not had any issues that I know of. All of the local guys have been out of business for a while
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Rob, a while back I bought an inexpensive single bowl 48" (maybe 60"?) granite with top with integrated off white bowl at Lowes in Camden. Seems like it was around $250. Maybe that's within their budget.
there are bargain tops out there but limited colors, Lowes has a bigger selection. I have used them for quick sale houses
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I've seen them crack also from people putting pressure on them repeatedly. Things like using it as a handheld for getting on and off the john. Crack happens in the bowl on the side that gets the stress.
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I've seen them crack and wondered if they're overly susceptible to impact.

Are you looking for single bowl or some odd 5' combo?

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I've seen them crack and wondered if they're overly susceptible to impact.

Are you looking for single bowl or some odd 5' combo?
Single bowl.

Seems weird that all 3 cracked in the exact same place.

Now I'm wondering if the chap who installed them and the plumbing possibly over-tightened the drain stop gizmo.
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Single bowl.

Seems weird that all 3 cracked in the exact same place.

Now I'm wondering if the chap who installed them and the plumbing possibly over-tightened the drain stop gizmo.
Could be, especially if they're trying to prevent a drain drip underside of the bowl. I just dope the threads where the rubber gasket gets tightened and squashed against the bowl underside.
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Single bowl.

Seems weird that all 3 cracked in the exact same place.

Now I'm wondering if the chap who installed them and the plumbing possibly over-tightened the drain stop gizmo.
Usually the cause. That and using plumbers putty. Seen to many that were cranked on to tight. Putty causes discoloration and can lead to cracks.
Also, high water temps can cause it. If i remember right, 120 max.

I always used silicone, and doped the threads.
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What’s their budget?
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Don't really know. I mentioned granite at probably $400-$500 and she balked at that.
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Don't really know. I mentioned granite at probably $400-$500 and she balked at that.
Craigslist it is then...

$400-$500 is too much for a granite top/sink? Did that include disconnect/reconnect, refuse removal, delivery and install?
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Stock white should serve the budget well. Dress up the room via the faucet, paint, light.....
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Craigslist it is then...

$400-$500 is too much for a granite top/sink? Did that include disconnect/reconnect, refuse removal, delivery and install?
No....just an estimate for a slab of granite.

When you combine all the stuff I have to to...refinish the vanity, re-make a framed mirror to fit on a medicine cabinet, buy the sink, buy the faucet, pay for my labor, etc, etc....$4-$500 is out of the budget for a slab of granite. These folks are late 70's...fixed income....they are not cheap just trying to spend their money wisely.
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No....just an estimate for a slab of granite.

When you combine all the stuff I have to to...refinish the vanity, re-make a framed mirror to fit on a medicine cabinet, buy the sink, buy the faucet, pay for my labor, etc, etc....$4-$500 is out of the budget for a slab of granite. These folks are late 70's...fixed income....they are not cheap just trying to spend their money wisely.
Maybe approach it this way... they've already personally experienced the path they're considering... not once, but twice... why repeat it a third time? The price difference between cultured marble and granite likely alleviates it from ever becoming an issue for them for the rest of their life... literally a couple bucks a month for the better product, plus it has the added benefit of potential perceived increased re-sale value for their kids (if they have any) or if they sell... they worked their whole lives... they're worth it...

At their age, peace of mind is also important... from that perspective, in their best interest...

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What size top?
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What size top?
22 1/8 deep x 27 1/4 wide
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Very odd size
You are not going to find a cheap top that size unless itís wall to wall and you cut a 30
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Doesnt seem odd. Doesnt HD sell those pre fab tops? They give you and inch in the front and almost flush on the sides.

Everytime I see those crack my gut is that the plumbing drain was over-tightened. I do hate those things. Often the overflow wont line up with the port of the tailpiece so the pop up is mangled.
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I can have my granite shop fab up a piece of remnant for $60 and drop in sink cutout is no charge, undermount sink cutout is $125. Under mount sink at home depot is $34. You take the measurements and supply them to the fabricator so if the wall isnít square you can still get the top to fit tight unlike the prefabricated crap at the big boxes. I always get the undermount cutout. So for just over $200 you can have a tight fitting sweet ass counter top with new sink.

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