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Old 11-04-2009, 08:53 PM   #81
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I know what you can do, the OP has left us hanging here.
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:25 PM   #82
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Sorry norm, coping saws are designed for cutting on the pull stroke. Apparently you were putting your blades in backwards all along until you made that magic discovery that coping saws cut better on the pull stroke.
Damn, I know this will be the dumb post of the month....but, I've always found it easier to cope on the pull stroke....no one I know does it that way, and when they pick up my coping saw they throw it aside...They've been breaking my balls for years...WTF!

First stroke is down then, pull, pull, pull.....
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Where's the damn pictures all ready!!
sorry to leave everyone hanging. i didnt do it today i had a total meltdown and needed to take some time to figure out whats going on in my head. tomorrow im gonna be doing it, and will have pictures then
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Freemason21,

Very few corners are truly 90 degrees. Thus, setting your miter saw to the 45 preset will not always give you a good outside corner. If you do not have an angle gauge, here is how to get accurate outside corners every time.

Simply take two pieces of 1x stock about 18 inches long. Lay one along one wall, flat upon the ceiling with about 6 inches sticking out past the corner. Now do the same thing with the other piece, coming from the other direction. The second piece should cross over the first one you held up there.

Scribe two pencil lines on the first board, giving you lines where both sides of the second board cross it.

Now take them down and hang onto the piece with the two pencil lines on it.

Draw a third line across the board from one end of the left line to the bottom end of the right line. (You will end up with "about" a 45 degree line.) Line up your miter saw blade with this line, and cut the angle.

Now mark this angle cut pattern on the other piece of wood... cut it too. (The saw should already be set for this cut.)

Take both pieces back up to the wall corner and test their fit. It should be perfect, but if not, adjust your saw angle slightly.

This part is important: Record the final, adjusted saw setting so that when you cut your actual molding, you can "swing" the saw to the exact same angle for both sides of the saw.

Go ahead and treat this "discovered" angle as the original 45.... it will make this particular corner fit perfectly.

You can use this method on each corner for exact fits, all the way around the house.
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sorry to leave everyone hanging. i didnt do it today i had a total meltdown and needed to take some time to figure out whats going on in my head. tomorrow im gonna be doing it, and will have pictures then
How many of us, at our ages and experience, could openly admit this? And then determine to get right back on the horse?

You hang in there 21!
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Very few corners are truly 90 degrees. Thus, setting your miter saw to the 45 preset will not always give you a good outside corner.Get an angle gauge.
Fixed it for ya....
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Fixed it for ya....
Normally, I'd agree. But he's recently lost his job. I'm not too sure how he has the money to buy crown for a honey-do job, but I suspect buying more tools right now wouldn't be wise if he can get away without doing so.
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Normally, I'd agree. But he's recently lost his job. I'm not too sure how he has the money to buy crown for a honey-do job, but I suspect buying more tools right now wouldn't be wise if he can get away without doing so.

You can buy one for 18 bucks at woodcraft, for a plastic one.

I bet he might throw away more than 18 bucks worth of crown.
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Before fancy digital stuff, I learned
to get the angle with a T-bevel.
Then put the handle on the edge of
a piece of paper and mark a pencil line
down the blade.
Then fold the edge to the pencil line,
and you have bisected the angle and
have the setting for the saw.
Just put one edge against the fence
and move the blade to the other.
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well things have been hung up once again. one of the water lines has a very very tiny leak in it, so tomorrow my uncle will be coming by to take care of that. ill post some pictures in a few when i have the 1x4 up.
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I love it! Be thankful the hardware store is so close, and money is so plentiful today.

For years and years before chop saws became so affordable, this was my miter box. Crank the Skill saw over to 45, and whack off a piece of base.

Not good for crown, but fast and cheap for base.
In the 60's I didn't do any crown.

I think I actually still have this somewhere out in the garage.
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Normally, I'd agree. But he's recently lost his job. I'm not too sure how he has the money to buy crown for a honey-do job, but I suspect buying more tools right now wouldn't be wise if he can get away without doing so.

He's not still gettin' the unemployment?



















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heres a couple pictures. and just so everyone knows i've had this stuff in my attic for a couple months i've just had no time to do it.


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sorry to leave everyone hanging. i didnt do it today i had a total meltdown and needed to take some time to figure out whats going on in my head. tomorrow im gonna be doing it, and will have pictures then
ive had young guys on my crew before and they were always haveing these ''melt downs''

the best cure for most of their problems is work
your broke? get a job
your bored? get a job
your depressed? get a job

and it don't have to be in construction
pump gas,flip burgers anything to keep you occupied
hit the construction thing again when times get alittle better

crown looks good by the way
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For crown with bellies...After I make my cope, I'll take a 6" scrap piece of the same moulding and rip the scotia off at the intersection of the belly. I take a peel and stick piece of 120 grit sandpaper and stick it to the belly portion. Put this up against your cope on the angle it would sit on the wall and sand your cope. Tight as a frogs a$$. Crisp and clean too.
Hope this isn't a repeat.
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ive had young guys on my crew before and they were always haveing these ''melt downs''

the best cure for most of their problems is work
your broke? get a job
your bored? get a job
your depressed? get a job

and it don't have to be in construction
pump gas,flip burgers anything to keep you occupied
hit the construction thing again when times get alittle better

crown looks good by the way
i'd rather not get into my life experiences but losing a job and falling behind on bills is not going to throw me over the edge. its stressful but i've lived a rough life by anyones standards and sometimes it eats at me. it is often the downfall of anything i succeed in and ironically usually what gives me the drive to try and keep going. thanks for the compliments
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WNY: Cope on the pull stroke eh? LOL There AINT no other way!!!!!!!!
Dont let nobody tell ya different. Only the GREAT ONES like US!!!!!! can do that It requires Something the others can only dream about SKILL FANTASTIC SKILL ROFLMAO
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also i've got a job interview tomorrow at a gmc dealership. i really hope i get it. it does bum me out but i dont think i can support my self right now and do construction, i hope this job pans out, and i hope im still welcome around here!

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