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Old 01-25-2020, 08:24 PM   #1
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Just posting /sharing my thoughts , have project that we've just started for a 'house flipper' and found a huge structural problem (most of the front of the house is rotten and pretty sure its only the stucco holding it all together) worth noting this is a typical 2 storey (garage below) and the offending wall/window overhangs the street by a few feet.
Showed the client and said we need to get a structural engineer in and replace the whole section as its liable to fall off anytime soon, even sooner if we replace the window as planned. His solution put the baseboard back on and paint! Obviously he's going to be heading for issues come sale time and i'll be taking proper advice but what do you think? do as he ask or should I walk away or insist he does what's right. I know which way Im heading.
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Old 01-25-2020, 08:31 PM   #2
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Walk and if it is a public danger you should notify the township code official.
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House flippers only really know 2 things

Cash closes quicker than a loan and an unemployed handyman is far cheaper than a professional painting contractor
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Wait, this is California? That's impossible, you guys have state licensing.
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Take pictures, send your refusal in writing even if itís an email and then walk.
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Nah, just paint the Fkkr and call it good.

Nothing ever falls down in San Francisco.



Are you actually the flipper?
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Just to be clear Im not going to be painting over it, Ive organized for a structural engineer to visit to hopefully tell him the same things Ive already told him! Yes its California and Im licensed, and its not getting risked on this one, thats for sure
Tools and materials jumped back in the truck this morning just incase a quick getaway is required
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Heres a pic, the floor plate has completely disintegrated and the remains of the two corner studs can just be seen, the black area in the hole is the 12x2 cantilever joist (this is the overhang of the 2nd floor) you can push a screwdriver through it like a knife through butter, likewise the other 12x2 is the frontal joist again shot away. Yeah sure we can just paint that, no problem (might need some caulk too)!!


https://photos.app.goo.gl/v4hrvr4fn1C15RK77


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You may want to open that up some more to reveal the full extent of the issue there, especially if you are arranging an engineer site visit
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oh yes, need to get a better look at the extent pf the problem
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Just to be clear Im not going to be painting over it, Ive organized for a structural engineer to visit to hopefully tell him the same things Ive already told him! Yes its California and Im licensed, and its not getting risked on this one, thats for sure
Tools and materials jumped back in the truck this morning just incase a quick getaway is required
Who's paying the freight ? , Looking like leading a horse to water here

You told the guy what's needed he said reinstall the base board.
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A guy who can say cover THAT up needs a baseball bat to the knees
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You should put up some Caution tape- lots of it- and notify the building officials, walk away.
But if the flipping asshat provides you a lot of work, just gently tell him this is a situation that can't be covered up and painted. it has to be rebuilt and you'll try very hard to not hurt him doing it.
It's the reason I usually won't work for flippers. I really dislike most I meet.
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Since we are living in a litigious society you could get dragged in to court and be held liable. Esp if somebody gets hurt
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I wouldn't cut anymore out until you are permitted to do so..

I'd walk, or work on your terms.

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